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  • I am the same type in function theory and Keirsey temperament assessment

    9 56.25%
  • I am different types in function theory and Keirsey temperament assessment

    5 31.25%
  • I prefer function theory.

    10 62.50%
  • I prefer Keirsey temperament assessment.

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  • I equally prefer both or don't know.

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    Default The Keirsey/Function Theory Conflict

    So how does it feel when you're the same type on Keirsey tests and function theory? What's that like? I know it happens to some people!

    How many people here follow Keirsey, and how many follow function theory, and how many just don't know? In my observation most people on this forum follow function theory or at least try to.

    I am Keirsey INFJ and function theory ENFP.

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    Keirsey got me into personality types, so I´m a bit biased. I like that it is a neat coherent system based on self description, whioch makes it easier to defend. it´s been comparatively easy to convince people of that. Cognitive function theory has always sounded a bit esoteric to me and I have not yet been able to sell it to anyone
    I´m still to find any empirical basis for it. Maybe it´s just my lack of knowledge talking, but from what I´ve seen on the forum, a suspiciousöy high number of people here have a messed up function order and there doesn´t seem to be a clear consensus on the function´s definitions either. So I´m a bit sceptical, even though it´s fun to say "Hey, that was Ne I just used!".

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    What is the difference?
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    In Keirsey I am a solid SP. In functions I am a solid isxp.

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    I'm INTJ on Kiersey and INTP on functions. J is pretty weak on Kiersey though- about 60%.

    I've also noticed that different tests give different results. Lenore Thomson's test also types me INTJ and the way Lenore describes J and P, I'm definitely more J. However, I only so-so relate to her Ni description. I identify more with her Ti description and even her Si one.

    Function tests usually type me as INTP or INFP even though Fi is supposedly my demonic function. Either the questions are a poor reflection on what Fi is really all about or I didn't have a very good self-understanding taking that test.

    The MBTI step II has me pegged as INTP. Moderate I, N, and P. Clear T.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gromit View Post
    What is the difference?
    Keirsey bases type on just the four letters - like INFJ or ISTP - without any discussion of which functions are being used, and holistic type descriptions. That means I'm Introverted Intuitive Feeling Judger, but not that I have Fe or Ni.

    Function theory, on the other hand, explains more subtle behaviors on strength of functions, which some people prefer as being more accurate, finding Keirsey over-simplified. Then again, people who prefer Keirsey think that function theory is too convuluted and difficult to prove, because of sketchy definitions, and the simple fact that although you may recognize functions within yourself, it's pretty hard to prove in other people. In fact it's quite presumptuous to assume you know what motivates another person, since functions aren't supposed to be based on outward behavior, but motives for outward behavior.

    Some people take function theory so far that I think it's insane. On the other hand, Keirsey does lack subtlety, and attempts to put people in just sixteen plain little boxes.

    I'm definitely INFJ in Keirsey because I test it over and over and over again, and have for years on Keirsey type tests, and when someone from this web site who prefers Keirsey met me, he confirmed that he believes I'm INFJ.

    HOWEVER, if you asked anyone else on this forum if I'm INFJ - well at least anyone who subscribes to function theory - they'd probably laugh at you, insisting that I clearly use Ne/Fi/Te/Si, and I'd kind of have to agree.

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    I dunno, if Keirsey is more equated to dichotomy-type tests, I'm INTJ with Keirsey and to a certain extent INTJ when it comes to most type descriptions (although it's a tossup at this point..it's like different components of myself are in both). However I seem to be INFJ with functions. Temperamentally, I've always related to some elements of NT quite a lot and other elements of NF. Even on temperament tests I'm fairly even between NF and NT.
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    Thanks for explaining, marm. I don't know if I'm different on the two systems. I relate a lot to Fi, as far as I can understand it, so probably IxFP or even xxFP. In terms of temperament I feel like it's quite close between SP and NF (is that also Keirsey, like Artisans and Guardians and stuff?).
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    I'm a Keirsey ENTP and a function theory ESTP... I prefer function theory- Keirsey just seems like an oversimplification to get people interested to me
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    Quote Originally Posted by cascadeco View Post
    I dunno, if Keirsey is more equated to dichotomy-type tests, I'm INTJ with Keirsey and to a certain extent INTJ when it comes to most type descriptions (although it's a tossup at this point..it's like different components of myself are in both). However I seem to be INFJ with functions. Temperamentally, I've always related to some elements of NT quite a lot and other elements of NF. Even on temperament tests I'm fairly even between NF and NT.
    Me too. ^ Limitation of test for those who stradle the middle. No type description for INXJ.

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