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    Quote Originally Posted by JustDave View Post
    Normally I would agree. However, in my case I live and breath computers so probably not. Besides another one of my coworkers is a "real" (as in he took a test administered by a professional, lucky SOB) ENTP and he knows his stuff but only performs when it is to his benefit. On other hand, toss me into the datacenter naked and bleeding, threaten to kill my family if I fix the problem and I will probably do so anyway just to prove that I can.
    And that makes which of you more intelligent, might I ask?

    It just means that you're so focused on the problem and the idea that finding the solution is the most important thing, that other factors don't cross your mind. You aren't considering alternatives to action, which implies less freedom of thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Merkw View Post
    Just to let you know, I do, in fact, plan on eating you for breakfast tomorrow morning. I hope the High Priest of Nevada approves.
    Finally a sense of humor! Bravo! And yes I am being sincere.

    Now would that be in the literal or metaphorical sense?

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    Quote Originally Posted by athenian200 View Post
    And that makes which of you more intelligent, might I ask?
    Possibly him. But I am far happier, so me?

    Don't corner me with logic. It will not work. I am very stubborn and will not acquiese.

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    Has the cat received the proper funeral ceremony?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JustDave View Post
    A coworker, and friend of mine, is a Rational and probably an INTJ. He has a Masters Degree in Electrical Engineering and is a licensed P.E. Additonally his hobbies are very NT: chess, astronomy, robotics, etc.

    We support a very complex computer network. Constantly when troubleshooting problems I come up with solutions that he finds ludicrous yet more often than not I am correct. Maybe it's intuition on my part that allows me to devise these semmingly odd solutions.

    To me it just seems odd that someone such as myself (now certain I'm not a Rational) could consistently devise creative soltions while my friend is left baffled.
    I am not sure of what you are yet... but most certainly not ESFP.

    I'm not sure how effective INTJ is in dealing with troubleshooting issues. They tend to be better at envisioning their own system, then implementing it using Te. Because they like to dictate what reality is (or what it should), they aren't nearly as good at responding to what it ACTUALLY is.

    So you sound much more P's. P's tend to troubleshoot better because they are Perceiving externally, not internally. They're actually looking at what is going on and flexing with it, working with it, jury-rigging it.

    It doesn't surprise me that, if you are a P (and TP), you're better at troubleshooting than your friend, even if he is brilliant.
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    *throws in random words to just add to the confusion*

    The freest thinker of them all would be XXXX wouldn't it? No "biases" afterall...

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    Quote Originally Posted by nightning View Post
    *throws in random words to just add to the confusion*

    The freest thinker of them all would be XXXX wouldn't it? No "biases" afterall...
    Yes, no paridigms, dichotomys or types. Just thoughts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JustDave View Post
    Yes, no paridigms, dichotomys or types. Just thoughts.
    A "yes" immediately followed by a "no?" No! 'Tis unheard of? Yes? Oh no! NO!

    *Commits quantum suicide*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    I am not sure of what you are yet... but most certainly not ESFP.

    I'm not sure how effective INTJ is in dealing with troubleshooting issues. They tend to be better at envisioning their own system, then implementing it using Te. Because they like to dictate what reality is (or what it should), they aren't nearly as good at responding to what it ACTUALLY is.

    So you sound much more P's. P's tend to troubleshoot better because they are Perceiving externally, not internally. They're actually looking at what is going on and flexing with it, working with it, jury-rigging it.

    It doesn't surprise me that, if you are a P (and TP), you're better at troubleshooting than your friend, even if he is brilliant.
    He certainly is brilliant or at least much smarter than I am. But his thinking is so ... rigid. To me that's the best word to describe it. If he has a clear vision of something he is awesome otherwise he falls apart very quickly. To be honest I feel bad for him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JustDave View Post
    He certainly is brilliant or at least much smarter than I am. But his thinking is so ... rigid. To me that's the best word to describe it. If he has a clear vision of something he is awesome otherwise he falls apart very quickly. To be honest I feel bad for him.
    Sounds INTJ. Could still be any other xxTJ, or even an INFJ for that matter.
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