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    The Ni is subconscious.

    One does not exist without the other.

    It's like good and evil; hot and cold; up and down.
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    I don't think that is what Jung expressed in his writing about typology.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AphroditeGoneAwry View Post
    Why would SPs, who prefer Se, utilize Ni at all? They are diametrically opposed functions. Where do you get this?
    You cannot avoid using your inferior until you realize how it controls your conscious, but after that point you don't really have that fear, or worry, you mold it to your psyche.

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    I don't really care what Jung expressed in his writing about typology.

    The ancient inventor of the wheel does not have an inherently better understanding of wheels than those who have studied them since.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    The accurate one I've been making all along: that SPs tend not to understand the source of their Se's interpretations all that well; they just go with it (it being, whether they realize it or not [and, naturally, not usually being versed in Jungian psychology, they usually don't], what their subconscious Ni tells them it means), which is essentially the same thing you've said yourself.
    Again that still comes across as Dominant Se. Holy crap we are gonna continue down this circle.This is like you argueing "THIS IS WHITE" and me saying no "THIS IS GREY"...well "essentially" grey has white in it.
    Take what I say with a grain of salt, because that's all it is compared to the ocean of complexity when it comes to actions and real life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    Well, that, and its specific and proper application to your flawed assumption that I don't think Se and Ni can play nice together.
    please see the bolded...
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    Yes, in the tertiary, your suppression of it isn't as high.

    But it usually is still there, and you'll tend to naturally "use" Se more easily.

    If you succumb to tertiary temptation/your dominant loop, then this will be less the case.

    Even then, though, you'll often be one quick flip away from embracing Se and suppressing Ni.

    ok...let me "rephrase" it...why does embracing Se mean that we have to supress Ni. To me when one has to supress another those 2 things dont play nice together, they operate in solitare from each other.


    Most of the time for me my Ti balances between Se and Ni. Sometimes it chooses sides, sometimes it makes them work together, and sometimes it makes them face each other.
    Take what I say with a grain of salt, because that's all it is compared to the ocean of complexity when it comes to actions and real life.

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    There are many ways to see.
    All subjective.

    Ayn Rand thought reality is out there. It is in the shadows.
    Si is group think. Under control. No fuse.

    Point Counter Point.
    Se and Ni = 50 per cent one thing. It is 50 per cent the other thing. Mutually exclusive.

    Camera lense does not interpret.
    You do.
    When you take a picture is it upside down?
    The negative is the positive?

    The divider is the agent. The divided however is the subject.
    Only the lense of the camera is the object.
    It is blind.

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    There are many ways to see.
    All subjective.

    Ayn Rand thought reality is out there. It is in the shadows.
    Si is group think. Under control. No fuse.

    Point Counter Point.
    Se and Ni = 50 per cent one thing. It is 50 per cent the other thing. Mutually exclusive.

    Camera lense does not interpret.
    You do.
    When you take a picture is it upside down?
    The negative is the positive?

    The divider is the agent. The divided however is the subject.
    Only the lense of the camera is the object.
    It is blind.

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    Isn't it about little clues coming together to form a cohesive whole along with considering multiple viewpoints?

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