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    Quote Originally Posted by stellar renegade View Post
    Huh? SPs are masters of improvisation. I'm not a sequential person at all, I'm spontaneous. SJs are the masters of sequence.
    Yeah, SJs are more of the tireless sequence-oriented thinkers and doers. SPs seem to be prone to become bored of this, perceiving is of course associated with spontaneity, which mimics the N-associated skipping of steps. This isn't a hard science though, I have no doubt you are a more worldly-thinker (big picture) even though that is supposedly an N trait.


    That's me. Are you an SP, too?
    hah, I'm an NP, but very SP in my dealings with certain things

    I think our commonality here is lack of Si presence, which is a very sequential function. Si is great and all, but sometimes it just overworks itself with all of its standard protocols. Why not skip excess work if it can be skipped and maximize fun-time???

    sometimes I skip too much work though and get in trouble. Mainly by SJs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SNUGGLETRON View Post
    Since Sensors are usually more sequential people, they seem to want to gather up all the parts. The Ns might miss stuff when they skip the parts the S's pick up, but they're probably better at improvising when they do miss things.
    Yup, well said.
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    Shouldn't being P be more indolent than N? I thought P was procrastination for perceptive laziness.

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    I don't think anyone could say that N is a stronger predictor than P (right?). For NJ vs SJ, you're probably right. The stereotypical SJ is the opposite of lazy. SP vs. NP, I don't know. Sure, we're always doing SOMEthing, but is it the thing we need to do? Not usually, in my case.

    I don't think being lazy is something to be proud of, but I can't imagine the "average" N is more lazy than me....particularly NJs.
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    It's a very good topic and worth a lot of thought !

    That's all I got, cause I dont understand it myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petra Pan View Post
    It reminds me of "you cant be an artist, you should get a real job" thing.
    you can't be a psychologist. get a real job.

    fuck real jobs.

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    you should get a real(ly fucking monotonous and boring but financially practical albeit self-repressing and sooner-or-later self-loathing) job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stellar renegade View Post
    My ISFJ girlfriend certainly thinks I'm lazy, and I am, under a certain definition. But not in that I'm not doing anything. It's usually because I'm doing too many "other" things that are too much like play.
    My ISFJ girlfriend is somewhat undecided as far as thinking if I'm lazy or not. Certainly I work more intensely than her, however I usually work less hours (self-employed). Certainly I always attend lectures, but I don't love to study alone secluded in my room. I also really dislike chores, but I cycle around 10'000 kms a year, which makes me really un-lazy. So, bottom line, I think everyone is and isn't lazy. SJs, having intuition as what socionics would call their "point of least resistance", are much less able to immediately-unconsciously understand other people's points of view, so they'll immediately label as "lazy" whatever doesn't fall in their peculiar patterns of supposed work.
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    NPs, particularly INPs, are lazy. NJs are some of the hardest working people evah!

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    general laziness

    lazy
    1. NP: INFP, INTP, ENFP, ENTP
    2. SP: ISFP, ISTP, ESFP, ESTP
    3. NJ: INFJ, INTJ, ENFJ, ENTJ
    4. SJ: ISFJ, ISTJ, ESFJ, ESTJ
    not lazy

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