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    The Institution and the Individual

    MBTI is useful for powerful institutions to manipulate gullible individuals.

    Here we focus just on the individual and so the institution is invisible.

    This is call misdirection and it works.

    But better than MBTI is speaking truth to power.

    However this requires moral courage while MBTI only requires narcissism.

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    Do you type friends and family, if so why?
    Yes, I like seeing what makes them tick and how I can relate better to them. And its like a puzzle to solve, which I enjoy.

    Is the MBTI a hobby or part of something greater to you?
    Both.

    What's the best use you've found thus far?
    I've analyzed how being an INTP has impacted my life and worked with that knowledge towards self-improvement and greater life satisfaction.

    How do you find the theories measure up against real life?
    Depends. There are some people who seem to fit the type descriptions exactly. I think functional development theory with age really varies for people. Supposedly, the theory says something like you develop your dominant in childhood, your auxilary in adulthood, your tertiary in the first part of adulthood, and don't even get to your inferior until middle age or later. I've known people who have gone through the stages of development far earlier than that and some older people who have never seemed to develop their weaker functions at all.

    Do you consider yourself skilled in typing people or are you just observing and making notes?
    Except for family, friends, and selected acquaintances, I don't go around typing everyone I see in real life. Most of the typing of others I do is on this forum. I find it difficult to be analyzing someone's type and trying to focus on the social interaction with the person at the same time.

    I rate my ability to type others as so-so. Definitely room for improvement. I have to watch out for not going by stereotypes as a typing method (i.e. that person must be an E because she likes to party!). People are not always what they seem on the surface.

    Interestingly, people I know really well like family members are often harder to type than people I sort of know well. With the former group, you see just how complex they are and you see traits that fit both sides of the dichotomy.
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    So how do you use yours?

    I use MBTI in pretty much everything people related. I like to get a clue as to how people think. The insight comforts me and it also prevents me from stepping on too many toes or being too careful when I don't need to. I also use it in my quest for self improvement which has been successful.

    Do you type friends and family, if so why?

    Yes I do, as I said, it's mostly for the insight (almost for the sake of insight). If someone screams SJ, I will try to be a thoughtful, everyday sort of guy for example. It's worked for me.

    Is the MBTI a hobby or part of something greater to you?

    It's mostly a hobby, but as I said it's useful too.

    What's the best use you've found thus far?

    Probably my quest for self knowledge. I wasn't sure if I was an F or a T, but through juggling between them I have come to know more about myself. As an ENFP, I will always have this problem of wanting approval but wanting to be myself at the same time. Therefore when someone is negative, I can only shut them down so much. I think it's something I need to learn and live with, though I can minimize its negative effects. MBTI has also helped me develop a study method that works for me. Let's hope this translates into a top grade for my masters.

    How do you find the theories measure up against real life?

    People take the theories too simply. I strongly believe that theories are vital to understanding and that if a theory doesn't match with real life, that's not a problem with theory itself, just that specific theory. When people try and apply MBTI, I think they need to give themselves a bit more conceptual wiggle room.

    Right now, I don't believe in types, I believe in functions. I believe that types are just easy ways of referring to functions. For example, you can be a Ne Fi Te Si etc. and ENFP is the tag that you label that with. However, I find it completely plausible for you to be a Ne Fi Si for example, and note that there isn't a type with such an order of functions. I believe MBTI has a good base, and yes, it can be applied irl quite well, but it still takes some work.

    Do you consider yourself skilled in typing people or are you just observing and making notes?

    I'm decently good at typing people, both online and IRL. I've chatted with certain people on the internet and guess their types in my head. Some time later they would do an MBTI test and my guesses would be correct. There's gotta be some weight in that. However, I have also typed people before and see that I've mistyped them when they post up their test results on fb or something. It's usually just the difference of a letter though, so I'll say I'm good enough.
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    Hey - yes, I have become more interested in this in the last couple of years (though first came across MBTI long before that but didn't have the attention span to remember what the letters stood for or meant (!))

    So how do you use yours?
    - Self understanding - "why do I feel uncomfortable being pushed into this decision" etc.
    - Strengths and weaknesses... when asked about (e.g. on project reports!)

    Do you type friends and family, if so why?
    - Yes, mostly cos I'm curious and to understand further about 'instantly' typing people (ie perceiving them as a particular type such as ENTJ etc rather than try to ascertain each letter in turn)

    Is the MBTI a hobby or part of something greater to you?
    - A framework for understanding people and why they do stuff they do - when it seems inexplicable to me ("What do you mean, it's my role in life to do xxxxx")

    What's the best use you've found thus far?
    - Helping not to get annoyed with 'clueless' people (IS_Js... I have the hardest time with) and understand them in a spirit of peace and understanding etc
    - or understanding myself and why it's ok not to be able to settle down to the established method of doing something (which was just what some seeming authority type person might have said years ago......)

    How do you find the theories measure up against real life?
    - Generally most people fit their type most of the time to the extent that it can be identified, though anything not fitting 'type' may just be a reaction to stress or having to visit relatives for an extended time or whatever

    Do you consider yourself skilled in typing people or are you just observing and making notes?
    - I can identify most types off the bat now as I have got used to them (lots of things allow identification e.g. particular words/types of language used, preferences for particular approaches etc) but I don't feel confident to identify the following types: ENTJ, INFJ, ISFP. The others I can generally suss out (strangely was thinking about this the other day and actually made a list *gasp* of types I can vs can't instantly identify!)

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    Do you type friends and family, if so why?

    Yes, and I don't stop there. I find myself trying to type just about everyone I come into contact with. No specific reason apart from being a test of my observational skills and a fun exercise.

    Is the MBTI a hobby or part of something greater to you?

    It started off as a hobby which is continually developing into something greater. I first became interested in MBTI as a teenager (20 years ago). Over the past couple of years I've grown and refined my understanding of the theory such that it's become an integral component of my conscious mind. I'm even considering a (long overdue) career change because of it.

    What's the best use you've found thus far?

    Better understanding of myself and the people around me, although I still have a very long way to go on both those accounts.

    How do you find the theories measure up against real life?

    I would say that 60-80% of folks fall into the "easily typable" category. Two caveats:

    1. It's silly to assume that everyone from a certain archetype will always display some of the same characteristics. As the abbreviation itself points out, it is an "indicator," nothing more. I've met other INTPs whom I had almost nothing in common with.

    2. I believe there are some folks to whose personalities MBTI theory doesn't easily apply.

    Do you consider yourself skilled in typing people or are you just observing and making notes?

    I think I'm pretty good at it, because I make it a point to be.
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    I am just fascinated which is why I'm learning about it... I have no idea if it will become more serious or if it will run it's course.

    Practical application. I've learned why I conflict with people, and have been able to work though issues with people that I never could before. It also helps me parent better... For instance, both my husband and I wondered if our son was OCD till I realized he's probably an SFJ. I am learning how to interact with him in a way that I couldn't comprehend before since I was so different as a child.

    So basically it helps me interact with people who are different than me. Before I just operated under the assumption that I was just different than them, and there was something wrong with me and right with them. Now I know we are just different... it relieved an enormous amount of pressure and gave me a new sense of freedom.
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    Seems most use it for relationship.
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    Does knowing MBTI make me a more savvy individual in the outside world. Well had my interpersonal communication been good then I would say yes, however I have to say since I got fuzzed from customer service and am relationshipless then hardly. You would assume knowing this would create savvyness galore. Sadly health and life seems to backfire on me most days.

    Quote Originally Posted by Xander View Post
    Do you consider yourself skilled in typing people or are you just observing and making notes?
    Just need to answer this q in a humble way...yes both!

    As to everything else, I'm a slave to indolence.

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    actually, that's the whole point i'm still on this site. just came here because i always tested INFP and it didn't really fit, but the members helped me figure out i'm actually ENFP. but i've had communication issues with my dad and brother (INTP) for years, and stuff on this site is helping me to somewhat understand the language barrier between us.

    i'm having some real breakthroughs in the latest Fe-Fi thread in the NF forum, too - learning how my language can come off as self-absorbed and writing others off to some people, etc. i'm learning what better to be attentive to with certain people, and helping others learn the way myself and people similar to me interpret things. it's really, really good. a facet of the world has opened to me that i've never been able to see before. it's helping me be a better me, too. it gives me a certain security to understand the places where i can probably push my limits more just for the fun of it, and others that i can work on. talking about Fi is really helping me understand why i'm so sensitive and emotional sometimes, and how better to deal with that.

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    Do you type friends and family, if so why?
    yeah, because they're people i'd like to understand better and have less conflict with. i'm not saying MBTI is a panacea, but it's helpful to consider if i have conflict with a certain person. it helps me give people the benefit of the doubt more. and helps me to see where their heart lies. i have trouble understanding certain types in real life, but hearing things from their perspective with the barrier of internet anonymity makes it easier for me to understand how they generally see things and why they might be acting like they are without the pressure of real-time interaction. to a certain extent, the MBTI has renewed my faith in people.

    however, on the dark side, recently i've been having difficulty not snapping to thinking about someone's type. i think i'll get over this in a little while - i'm just so mired in theory right now and waiting for my new job to start, so i don't have a ton else on my mind - but it's a little disturbing sometimes.

    Is the MBTI a hobby or part of something greater to you?
    mostly a hobby.

    What's the best use you've found thus far?
    like i was getting at above, communication issues. if there's a misunderstanding and i don't see what i've done, it's useful to resort to the jungian paradigm and see if it can offer any answers.

    How do you find the theories measure up against real life?
    like most theories - fun but too specific to actually describe everything in life.

    Do you consider yourself skilled in typing people or are you just observing and making notes?
    eh. with some people, it just jumps out at you. it's so obvious. other people i have no clue.

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    I know how impersonal all of this comes across. Welp

    So how do you use yours?
    What's the best use you've found thus far?
    Stereotyping.

    No, seriously.

    I've sort of duct-taped MBTI to my 'way of interacting with people.' I've got about six or so 'archetypes' in my head, with MBTI types and temperaments influencing how I've defined them.

    I then sort of use those archetypes in my dealings with others. I pin down how people fit into my own archetypes pretty readily and do make snap judgments, though I account for other facets of their personality and open to being proven wrong if someone doesn't 'fit.'

    I've also used it as a tool for personal growth, a classification of different 'skills' that we can use.

    I know that the theory isn't 'supposed' to describe behaviors. I don't give a damn if my way of using MBTI is 'right' or not--it's useful in this way, and that's all that matters to me.

    Do you type friends and family, if so why?
    Mostly hobbyist, but it can be useful for dealing with new people.

    Is the MBTI a hobby or part of something greater to you?
    Mostly a good, useful tool for the big ol' toolbox. See also: other psychological theories, sociology, etc.

    How do you find the theories measure up against real life?
    People behave differently, and people can be categorized in a subjective matter. So, in that sense, it 'measures up' by definition.

    As far as the actual underlying theory? Yeah, wake me up when we've got some actual validation of Jungian functions and how they are the end-all, be-all of personality

    Do you consider yourself skilled in typing people or are you just observing and making notes?
    There's no skill involved in classifying people subjectively. The real skill is in successfully interacting with others, and being able to generalize to a certain extent in the right way helps with that.

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