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    So Fe being IXTPs inferior- You'd manipulate them using something like: "You will never be able to fit in with society, unless you do this", (though it would have to be more subtle). I would think that you could play to their need for competence more than that. And I think that falls into the Enneagram category.

    If I told an ENXP that they suck at remembering sensations, they would likely agree... maybe even laugh. IXTPs would also laugh and agree when you tell them that they suck at Fe. It wont affect them if they identify with it.

    Playing to the Doms seems like it could work though. Telling an ENXP that he has no imagination and that everything s/he says is stale and repugnant would get a pretty fierce reaction methinks. Telling an ISXJ that they couldn't tell the difference between tert-butyl carboxylic acid and licorish would work better than telling them they are dull and unimaginative. They know that and recognise it within themself. Attacking Fi of an ISTJ might work though.

    I reckon getting that reaction is key to manipulation of any kind. For example, you could get someone to play basket ball with you by telling them that they haven't done much excercise in ages and are starting to get hideously obese. If they are even slightly concerned about their weight they might be duped.

    I'm thinking an attack on competence might work on anyone though? It might not be an MBTI related thing? I might as well try it on some people- trolllollollollol la lollololol!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackCat View Post
    I get more pissed off than anything when Te is over exerted onto me... not necessarily manipulated. But I can see how that would work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by King-Of-Despair View Post
    'm thinking an attack on competence might work on anyone though?
    Go ahead and tell a Ti person they're being "illogical" and see what kind of response you get.

    Some people don't mind being incompetent as much as being considered mean or unkind. It depends on the person.
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    Speaking about functions, it seems that playing to one's inferior would piss them off and that catering to their dominant allows you to be on the same page.

    "Manipulate" by agreeing with their overall approach, not by disagreeing. Anyone's going to be disagreeable if you poke at weak parts of their ego.

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    Quote Originally Posted by King-Of-Despair View Post
    If I told an ENXP that they suck at remembering sensations, they would likely agree... maybe even laugh. IXTPs would also laugh and agree when you tell them that they suck at Fe. It wont affect them if they identify with it.
    Egg Zachery! My Si is crap, and often the cause of discomfort, I can't see how that would play against me, it needs no assistance to crap all over things.

    Tell my Ne it can't think outside the box, or that I don't remain open to new possibilities and I'll :steam: praise my ability to do those things and I'll be all *puffs out chest and thinks of being out side of boxes and new possibilities to prove you right*

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    Go ahead and tell a Ti person they're being "illogical" and see what kind of response you get.
    Hehe, that one's sooooo much fun! Get's 'em hot under the collar every dang time

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    Quote Originally Posted by stalemate View Post
    I manipulated Craft's Ti a while back and planted the seed for this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deja Vu View Post
    Inception....
    Hence my comment about "don't think about elephants" earlier.
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    Manipulating people is easy. I could use a guide on how not to manipulate people though.
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    realize it doesn't have to be a bad thing and is a very natural thing. It's a tool, meant for our survival. Just be aware of how you use it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Satine View Post
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    realize it doesn't have to be a bad thing and is a very natural thing. It's a tool, meant for our survival. Just be aware of how you use it
    It is always a bad thing, in the sense that there are other ways that should be considered long before considering manipulation. Half-arsed conviction isn't what gets me out of bed.
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