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    Quote Originally Posted by OrangeAppled View Post
    There is one INFJ girl I went to college with who will explain to you the difference between "indie" & "hipster" in the way a nerd/geek will explain the difference between a "nerd" and a "geek" . I've known a few other hipster-ish people (NTPs & SPs & a few NFJs), but none really fit the stereotypes you usually hear, outside of an elitist attitude about indie music, fashion, art, etc. I think what the term usually refers to now is pretty "mainstream". It's kind of how "goth" is now a kid who shops at Hot Topic....

    This INFP is too earnest (& suburban, & mainstream, etc...) to be a hipster - for one, it requires doing stuff to be "ironic", and I do/like stuff out of sincere interest. MBTI enthusiasts like to blame counter culture on IxFPs though - we're emo, goth, hippies, and hipsters now too apparantly :P
    So true. We always get the labels :rolli:

    I really love aspects of the hipster culture (clothing, music etc) but dislike the whole wanky attitude. I don't really care about what is deemed to be cool enough to conform to a certain set of approved behaviours; I just can't be bothered and generally resent being told what to think or what bands I should like.

    I'm sure there are hipster INFPs but I don't think we naturally fit the stereotype well. INFPs struggle to completely fit in with any scene because we're not great at hiding our unconventional and uncool interests.
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    beefeater, part of me feels those are a little too broad to be strictly hipster. They have a common theme of being sort of creative (genuinely or articifically), liberal (with varying degrees of passion, knowledge and authenticity) and more drawn to the counter-culture or less-than-mainstream (to me, this is almost a matter of just having decent taste, not being a hipster. After all, Jersey Shore and Katy Perry are technically popular right now). These terms apply to hipsters, but I feel like there's also a certain attitude with hipsters that may not exist in all those people. I knew a few very serious hipsters in college (read: last 4 years) and found that hipsterism also involves an attitude of precieved arrogance (the 'ironic' sorts of stuff, quetly judging what others do/think from afar not because those thoughts/actions have negative effects, but just because they can) and a sort of very strict basis for what is and isn't 'hip' that is supposedto feel sort of unique and spirited, but generally is derived from semi-popular sites telling them what's good (Pitchfork, for example, is a site that fulfills this role). They create very distinctive looks for themselves, usually intended to look thrown together, but usually created after arduous consideration.

    Hipsters are sort of mean-spirited and sometimes strike me as insecure, formign their opinions around their friends to ensure their own popularity in the group. I feel like they must've tried to be the popular kid when they were little and failed, so they used hipsterdom as a sort of bitter, angry back-up spot. Like a lot of counter-culture groups before them, while a few may be genuine, a lot are just following the lead so they can seem 'cool'.

    The way that my most hipster friends were so concerned with details and keeping up obsessively with the newest and most obscure things (some would act santimonious about introducing a good band to you, like they were more pure than you because of it) and their obsession with their looks and attitudes being just so makes me think they seemed to usually be S, their worry for the opinions of others makes me think F, and their adherence to this sub-system of laws and mores seems a bit J, though I knew a few very hipster Ps.

    So, mostly xSFJ (sometimes xSFP).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Kross View Post
    I really love aspects of the hipster culture (clothing, music etc) but dislike the whole wanky attitude. I don't really care about what is deemed to be cool enough to conform to a certain set of approved behaviours; I just can't be bothered and generally resent being told what to think or what bands I should like.
    Seconded. As I mentioned before, I tend to loathe current popular music (usually incredibly grating pop or hip hop about sex and sweat dripping down balls (both of these genres have some great musicians, I just don't like a lot of their hits)), TV (Jersey Shore's premiere got something like 4 times the viewership of Mad Men, and I can't watch pretty much any reality TV) and movies (Twilight and Transformers do gangbusters at the box office) and think that certain traditionally indie music, TV and films are a lot better. I'm also pretty liberal. But that attitude hipsters often have is like venom.
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    I'm late.
    Does anyone feel ENxP?
    I found out about the hipster phenomenon about a year ago (American culture takes time to get around to Taiwan), and what surprised me was that my ENTP friend and I (him especially) had fairly "hipster" characteristics--he was extremely elitist about experimental electronica and wore an ACDC shirt in jest, I loved Neutral Milk Hotel and wore a tee with "Abercrombie and Fitch" written in chalk, and we both used hip-hop slang satirically. At the time, my goal in life was to buy a Vespa and travel behind Kerouac's ghost. He was trying to grow a soul patch.
    When I found out there was a whole subculture centered around these sorts of values, irony, etc, my first thought was perhaps it was a spontaneous movement of all the ENPs around the nation and then some. While these days it actually seems to be mostly made up of metrosexual ESFPs and Pitchfork pop, I feel like its roots in irony, experimental music, and irreverence are all very Ne, especially Ne with Ti.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurt.Is.God View Post
    I'm late.
    Does anyone feel ENxP?
    I found out about the hipster phenomenon about a year ago (American culture takes time to get around to Taiwan), and what surprised me was that my ENTP friend and I (him especially) had fairly "hipster" characteristics--he was extremely elitist about experimental electronica and wore an ACDC shirt in jest, I loved Neutral Milk Hotel and wore a tee with "Abercrombie and Fitch" written in chalk, and we both used hip-hop slang satirically. At the time, my goal in life was to buy a Vespa and travel behind Kerouac's ghost. He was trying to grow a soul patch.
    When I found out there was a whole subculture centered around these sorts of values, irony, etc, my first thought was perhaps it was a spontaneous movement of all the ENPs around the nation and then some. While these days it actually seems to be mostly made up of metrosexual ESFPs and Pitchfork pop, I feel like its roots in irony, experimental music, and irreverence are all very Ne, especially Ne with Ti.
    haha...yes i know what you mean. i don't care what that label is or how people perceive it. i may be that way and a lot of my friends are...things like that are just funny so whatever i don't care i like me.
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    I know an INFP and some of his friends who could classify. But they would be more towards hippies, in that deadbeat hungover work at walmart because their grand roadtrip across the states failed miserably due to lack of forethought and planning way. I don't know, it's annoying.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lady X View Post
    that term annoys the f@ck outta me.
    hipster detected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurt.Is.God View Post
    He was trying to grow a soul patch.
    This made me laugh. Trying to? How long could you possibly have to try? You give it a couple days and you either have one or you don't? lol. Sounds like his life's work was trying to grow a soul patch. hahaha

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    *bursts through the door*

    "I've done it, I've done it! I've finally grown my soul patch!"

    "That's just some dryer lint you've glued to your chin..."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurt.Is.God View Post
    we both used hip-hop slang satirically
    that is so freaking annoying. lol

    and anytime people say/do/wear things "ironically".... At least you can weed people out pretty easily this way.
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    I need a better definition of "hipsters." I honestly am having a large amount of trouble with categorizing these people in my mind... They are like... a nebulous, vacuous conglomerate of antiquated fashion and various popular mainstream icons...

    They are like... A variant of emos?
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