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    How easy is it for you to see your dominant function?.

    Watching your own thinking. Being aware. You'd think you'd be able to spot some framework. Can you do that?

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    I don't see it, I feel it, I know. Trying to put it into word-form is something I really don't bother myself with, at least not for myself. For others, it's just not adequately describable. Maybe it is but I really have no need for it.

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    I don't really see it, I get antsy about random things sometimes? I dunno my MBTI knowledge has gone backwards badly.
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    I've got two Ne modes. The one where I actively try to trigger the thing, wanting to be creative. When I'm writing or painting or something. Then I'm quite conscious of what I'm doing.
    But then there's the problem thrown at my feet and I go on problem-solving mode. Sometimes the problem gets solved so quickly and easily that I never realize there was a problem in the first place. I think it's a normal situation and I react in a normal way. Until somebody compliments me on my problem-solving skills and I go "Huh? Problem? What problem?" In short, I think I'm using Si but on retrospect I realize that it was the first time ever I've encountered that problem so it couldn't be...
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    I just recently read some brief pages by Leonore Thompson on the Ne matter and found her descriptions quite good. She said that experiencing Intuition is like listening to music. When you do, you dont concentrate on the notes themselves, but on the holistic thing they create when put in relation. So what you experience as music, is basically the relation between notes, a bit dumbly put.

    On top of that she gave a good example regarding a person's face. If you meet a person, you always have a "gut feeling" from moment 1 on. I never really thought about that trait of mine in detail, but when I did, I realized I judged many people wrong in their character from the start. Another part aspect of this is the recognition of the face as a whole. You cant normally tell if a person has a big nose you wont notice ( except it's really big ). My workmate has a huge scar on his forehead and lately he talked about an accident he had as a kid. That was the first time I conciously realized there was a scar. This kind of attitude is best expressed, if someone asks me to describe a person. Like the police would ask you for a mug shot. It wouldnt matter if I dont know the person much or if I have known her / him for years, I suck at doing mug shots. On the other hand tho, I remember every face, I have ever seen in my life, the moment I see it again. The initial feeling is, "I know this person from somewhere" and then after some digging in my memories I know who she / he is. It's amazing my gf says I have an impressive facial recognition memory, tho as said, I totally suck at doing a mug shot.

    One last intresting thing, Leonore talked about too, is conviction. When I was a kid I read all sorts of medical books and my parents where convinced, I'll become a doctor one day ( later when I discovered robots, medicine didnt caught my intrest again ). It started with me reading a series of books for kids about different topics, which were already pretty detailed but lacked many detail on the same hand. So I bought books for adults and tho I didnt understand like 60% of the words used, I still worked my way thru it. I still know till today, how the immune defence is coordinated, with B-memory cells coordinating the defence or if its an unknown bacteria, its either the antigenes or the T-Killer lymphocytes who answer to the challenge. What I wanted to say, equipped with this half-knowledge about things, my Intuition seemed to fill in the blanks ( without careful analysis ). So if my mom for example asked me something about an illness, I gave her a prompt answer ( cause I didnt want to look stupid ) and made like 70% of the answer up. The things I made up were quite good and they could definitly be the answer, I'ld just really need to subject them to further study first, to be convinced this is how it works.

    This conviction about knowing things I never knew nowadays got replaced by a lot of methodical, systematical and technical expertise thanks to my University education, so I am no easy victim for myself no more. It's nevertheless good to know, one does such a thing, it's good for knowing when and when not you betray yourself and that you are not all-knowing.

    One thing hasnt ceased to exist for me so far yet and that's my fascination for all kind of working systems, which I try to see holistically, to fill in all the blanks and then analyse or just enjoy, if it's not to be analyzed. Systems like: electrical circuits, political events and whats really happening, economic systems, biological systems, astronomical occurences, card games, relationships, music, .....
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    Effortless, once you know what to look for.

    It's like walking through the world, with your mind doing this to everything:



    People, things, ideas, even yourself. Nothing escapes Ti's gaze.

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    I often had the impression that intps like photography as in to capture a nice scenery. Can that be understood as a relief to Über-Ti ?
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    Random crazy ideas pop into my head all the time, unbidden. Sometimes I have to force Ne to work though, like when I'm tackling a problem.
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    I am still critical to if its possible at all to force a perceiving function like N or S to work for you. I for example dont think other personalities have a lesser amount of ideas than entps, I rather think they have different intrests then for example problem solving.

    I think perceiving functions are a like glasses you wear which make you see the world different from other people. The thing tho is, you will probably never know how other people see the world and you can just hope that you can find out in dialogue to have an epiphany one day with a great idea.

    But I am critical if N or S can be manipulated.
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    if I've got it right this time, I guess it manifests in that I regularly try to resolve differing perspectives in my own mind. It's what I do.

    Sorry if you wanted something more mysterious for Ni


    On the other hand, Socionics Ni doesn't describe me very well--Fi does a much better job under that system.

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    I for example dont think other personalities have a lesser amount of ideas than entps, I rather think they have different intrests then for example problem solving.
    this

    I've likened the functions to what one 'pays attention' to.. though that isn't the best phrasing because it implies that all functions are perceiving..

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