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Birth Order and J vs P

What is your birth order and J/P level?


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FFF

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So I've been wondering if birth order has any effect on J/P. I have a straightforward sibling line up that goes:

Oldest ENTJ
Middle INTj (somewhat J)
Youngest INTP

If you notice the judging gets less and less as you decline in order, and I'm wondering how common this is. A lot of the oldest child description I read is consistent with J, and a lot of the youngest child description I read is consistent with P.

Sometimes birth order isn't so straight forward, though. To figure out where you fit in you need to consider some exceptions. If there's a gap of seven years or more, between siblings, it could end up causing a sort of new order.

1st Child 14 years
2nd Child 12 years
-----------------
3rd Child 5 years
4th Child 3 years

In the above situation you have a new order started, and the 2nd child would be more like a last born, and the third child would be a lot like a first born.

Another factor that can come into play is if a child is physically or mentally challenged. A friend from a while back was the younger brother of two, but in many ways he functioned like a first born because something was wrong with his older brother. I can't remember what it was, but this friend was always the smarter, more capable one. So, although he was younger, he began to function like an oldest child.

Death, multiple births, and adoption can also work to make the birth order issue more complicated.

So, if you're quite certain where you fit in the birth order line up, why don't you go ahead and vote in my poll. The following letters will represent your order:

E = only child (exclusive)
O = oldest
M = middle
Y = youngest

The following letters represent five levels of J/P.

J = J out the A
j = somewhat J... kinda questionable
x = not sure of J or P
p= somewhat p... kinda questionable
P = P like a G
 

Athenian200

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I'm an only child, and I seem to be strongly J. My mother seems to be a P. I don't know about the rest of my family.
 

heart

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I am the youngest of five by about ten years. I was the only child my parents had together.
 

cafe

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I'm the oldest of three, but our current ages are:

me (INFX)- 37
EXXJ brother- 31
ISTP brother- 16

My husband is a firstborn INTP with an ESFJ sister nine years younger than him.

My children are:
daughter (14)- INTj
daughter (13)- IXFP
son (11)- EXTX
son (9)- IXTP
 

prplchknz

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for the longest time I thought my brother was a p but now I think he may actually be a j not a hundred % sure but the type he fits the best is ESTP but he could be ENTP or ENTJ I don't see him as a ESTJ but i could be wrong..

my dad who is the oldest in his family is defiently a p xtxp i suspect either intp or istp and my mom Iwhose the youngest in her's is defiently a j infj. Though I do think my dad's a N as neither one of my parents are that in touch with reality.


but the other night their was a conversation with my parents and we came to the conclusion that my brain and my dads brain is similar and my moms and brothers brain is similar but my mom and I are both Fs and my brother and dad are both Ts. Ok that second part wasn't talked about but that's what I've gather from my observations.
 

Jae Rae

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May I ask why E = only and O = eldest? [smile.]

In any case I'm the elder of two daughters, both of us are Js.

My husband is a P, his two younger brothers are Js.

My son is a P, his younger sister is a J (four years apart).


Jae Rae
 

Randomnity

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I am the eldest. I think I'm a P but I do have J tendencies at times...

My sisters, oldest to youngest (2-3 years between each of us):
IxFJ
IXXP
EXFP
 

Lateralus

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I'm the oldest of 8 (all from the same two parents) and I'm definitely a P, but I have enough J qualities that I'm able to function in the world reasonably well.

Me: ENXP
Sister (2 years younger): ESFJ
Sister (4 years younger): EXFP
Brother (7 years younger): ESXP (I think)
Brother (9 years younger): ESXP
Brother (11 years younger): ENFP
Brother (13 years younger): ESTJ
Brother (15 years younger): INTP
 

Ender

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Older Brother = ?? He died when he was 4.
Myself = P
Younger brother = J
 

miss fortune

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Oldest (*shudder* what a horrible term! :cry:)- ESTP
Youngest- ESFP

for my mom's sisters- the oldest 2 daughters were definitley Ps while the youngest 3 were Js

Dad's family- Every single one of them positively SCREAMS P- and all married Js! :laugh:
 

FFF

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Oldest (*shudder* what a horrible term! :cry:)- ESTP
Youngest- ESFP

You sure do use :cry: a lot. Are you sure you're a T type? :alttongue: I'm sorry if doubting your T makes want to :cry:
 

FFF

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Hmm, so this seems to be turning up a bunch of random results.
 

miss fortune

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You sure do use :cry: a lot. Are you sure you're a T type? :alttongue: I'm sorry if doubting your T makes want to :cry:

:doh: not this question again! Yes! I'm a T- just a very expressive one- you can bet your life savings that you'd not see me cry in real life- or even hug anyone! :rofl1:

(as Dr. Reid said in Scrubs- "Yeah, I don't want anyone touching me unless we're gonna have sex and even then I don't want them to overdo it.")
 

quietgirl

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I'm an oldest J & my boyfriend's an oldest J. However, both of us grew up carrying a disproportionate amount of responsibility, so that may have contributed towards the J.

I'm the oldest of a single mother family, so I had to take the responsibility for my brother while my mother worked a couple jobs to pay the bills. My younger brother is a P. I am sure that factor contributed to the strong J as well as the strong auxillary Fe.
 

Colors

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May I ask why E = only and O = eldest? [smile.]

Yes! I.... accidently voted EP (only P), instead of OP (eldest P).:doh:

(My younger brother is also a P. Probably IsFP or esFP.)
 

Domino

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Half sister, eldest - ISTJ
Twin sister, identical, one minute ahead - ENFP
Me - eNFJ
 

FFF

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I forgot to mention the gender effect. If you have a male child followed by a female child, the female child will also take on some oldest child characteristics because she's the oldest female. She kinda gets to be in a league of her own for a lot of things.
 

scantilyclad

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me oldest-infp
sister (2.5 years younger) ESFP
brother (6 years younger) ESTJ
sister (7 years younger) ENFP
Brother (10 years younger) ESTP
sister (16 years younger) EXFJ

Mostly Ps i guess. We are all very different kids, and i'm the only introvert, so you can see that i was driven crazy when we all lived in the same house.
 
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