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    Quote Originally Posted by guesswho View Post
    There are way more talkative dramatic agitated very extraverted people..than the talk less think more type.
    At least they are more conspicuous.

    Quote Originally Posted by Edgar View Post
    Humans are social creatures, so it makes sense for the majority of people to be extraverted.
    Sounds like some sort of circular (and faulty, excuse me) reasoning...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edgar View Post
    Humans are social creatures, so it makes sense for the majority of people to be extraverted.

    If I had to guess I'd say its a 2:1 ratio.
    The numbers for the "normal" population came from MBTI results for 9,320 11th and 12th graders.

    Type Ratio Gifted % Norm %
    Ixxx 1.41 49.69 35.14
    Exxx 0.77 50.23 64.86

    I believe they suspect that extraversion could be overreported, if anything, due to high schoolers wanting to be more extroverted.

    I have seen elsewhere that the split is about 40% introverted and 60% extroverted. That is where I'd put my best estimate, if I had to.

    Also, this data does exist by country, and the U.S. is over-represented with extroverts. Most Western countries are. The Asian countries tend to have more introverts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Llewellyn View Post

    Sounds like some sort of circular (and faulty, excuse me) reasoning...
    Human natural behavior leans more toward those of pack animals (like dogs). Since ancient history humans would hunt in packs and our most distinguishing characteristic from other animals is the ability of complex communication - which is conducive to group functioning.
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    If extraverts are always out and about, absorbing and relaying external information, then it would be easy to see why they would be mistaken for being more enumerated than introverts. It's more likely that they simply have more attention drawn to them, drawing the attention away from the ~50% population of introverts.

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    If its 50:50 why then is Extraversion so much more accepted? Who would make so big pressure on 50% of population?
    Despite Es being louder I think what is expected would look a lot different if the ratio is 50:50.
    I'd guess 40:60 at best.

    My country is more extraverted than US I think, Mediterrenean countries are known to be obnoxiously loud, like Italy, Greece, Lebanon and Croatia... Only Croatia is very very T country, we dont like each other very much but still talk to each other all the time, The Balkans. US seems way more F. Also, we are waaay less N than US, whole Europe is! I think here it's 30:70 I to E.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chloé View Post
    If its 50:50 why then is Extraversion so much more accepted? Who would make so big pressure on 50% of population?
    I don't believe Extroversion is "so much more accepted", I think sociability is seen as a positive trait and shyness is seen as something to overcome, those things are not the same thing as Extroversion and Introversion though.

    Many of the Introverts I know are quite sociable, more so than me even, they are also Sensors, the only stats I've ever seen on S/N is 70/30 or there about. If people are seeing ISxx's as Extroverts because of behavioural traits then I can understand why they would think there are so many more Extroverts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kasper View Post
    I don't believe Extroversion is "so much more accepted", I think sociability is seen as a positive trait and shyness is seen as something to overcome, those things are not the same thing as Extroversion and Introversion though.

    Many of the Introverts I know are quite sociable, more so than me even, they are also Sensors, the only stats I've ever seen on S/N is 70/30 or there about. If people are seeing ISxx's as Extroverts because of behavioural traits then I can understand why they would think there are so many more Extroverts.
    yeah, that's all true. My sister is ISTJ (But I retyped her as ESTJ because she's never alone, but in MBTI terms she's ISTJ i think) and she's more social than I am, but when we were kids I was way more social than she is.

    but also % vary a lot depending where you live, I guess Scandinavia is most Introverted place in Europe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chloé View Post
    but also % vary a lot depending where you live, I guess Scandinavia is most Introverted place in Europe.
    I've never been to Scandinavia but I expect you're still talking about behavioural things, just based on culture, like America (I presume) encourages socialisation etc, other cultures may be more encouraging of being more withdrawn or unassuming. I wouldn't expect the average amount of types would differ dramatically. Would be interesting to see some studies though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petra Pan View Post
    Also, we are waaay less N than US, whole Europe is!
    :confused:

    Could you please explain your thinking here?
    Last edited by Zarathustra; 09-07-2010 at 11:55 AM.

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    Big, big difference between the possession of introversion/extraversion skills, and functional extraversion as conceptualised in Jung-based typology. Most tests (and arguably MBti to a far greater extent than it should) assess Extraversion/Introversion purely as behavioural traits (and therefore skill usage) - which since they are acculturated social norms, are not going to tell you anything beyond the obvious about the prevalence of these traits in any society you look at.

    Unless it's absolutely clear which type of introversion/extraversion is being referred to, which type the tests are measuring, and whether they're set up to do so effectively, it's hard to see anything interesting coming out of this...
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