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    Lightbulb My typology system: 2 Letter Code instead of 4 letter

    I think the 4 letter code is simply inacurate in so many ways. I am not asking for a disband of the 4 letter system, but i should be a more concise definition should the user wanted to know more about his type.

    Each type should be represented by 2 letter code instead.
    The highest scored 2 letters in your MBTI test should be taken out to represent your type.
    Here is all my two letter code (each two letter representing a personality) types:

    IS - Introverted Sensing
    IT-Introverted Thinking
    IN-Introverted Intuition
    IF-Introverted Feeling
    ES-Extroverted Sensing
    ET-Extroverted Thinking
    EN-Extroverted Inutition
    EF-Extroverted Feeling



    And here are all the types jung never listed:

    EP-Extroverted Perciever
    EJ-Extroverted Judger
    IJ-Introverted Judger
    IP-Introvertred Perciever

    ST-Sensing Thinker
    SF-Sensing Feeler
    NT-Intuitive Thinker
    NF-Intuitive Feeler

    SP-Sensing Perciever
    Sj-Sensing Judger
    NJ-Intuitive Judger
    NP-Intuitive Perciever

    TJ-Thinking Judger
    TP-Thinking Perciever
    FP-Feeling Perciever
    FJ-Feeling Judger
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    I'm confused as to how one's 4 letter code could be derived from a four letter type. If someone says they are EF, they could be ESFJ, ENFJ, ESFP, or ENFP. With each of these 4 letter codes, there would be 4 possible MBTI types.

    What would work though, is to designate a single letter for each of the 8 functions. For example:

    Si = A
    Se = B
    Ni = C
    Ne = D
    Fi = E
    Fe = F
    Ti = G
    Te = H

    I realize these letter designations are completely arbitrary.

    The first letter in two letter code represents the dominant function, the second letter the auxilary. Since each of the 16 types has a unique dominant/auxilary function combination, four letter MBTI types could be derived from these two letter codes.

    For example, using the above code, INTP would be designated as GD
    ESFJ would be designated as FA
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    Quote Originally Posted by cloud View Post
    I think the 4 letter code is simply inacurate in so many ways. I am not asking for a disband of the 4 letter system, but i should be a more concise definition should the user wanted to know more about his type.

    Each type should be represented by 2 letter code instead.
    The highest scored 2 letters in your MBTI test should be taken out to represent your type.
    Here is all my two letter code (each two letter representing a personality) types:

    IS - Introverted Sensing
    IT-Introverted Thinking
    IN-Introverted Intuition
    IF-Introverted Feeling
    ES-Extroverted Sensing
    ET-Extroverted Thinking
    EN-Extroverted Inutition
    EF-Extroverted Feeling
    = Si, Ti, Ni, Fi, Se, Te, Ne Fe. Done.

    Quote Originally Posted by cloud View Post
    And here are all the types jung never listed:

    EP-Extroverted Perciever
    EJ-Extroverted Judger
    IJ-Introverted Judger
    IP-Introvertred Perciever]
    = Pe dom, Je dom, Pi dom, Ji dom. Done.

    Quote Originally Posted by cloud View Post
    ST-Sensing Thinker
    SF-Sensing Feeler
    NT-Intuitive Thinker
    NF-Intuitive Feeler
    = SiTe or TiSe; SeFi or FeSi; NeTi or TeNi; NeFi or FeNi. Done.

    Quote Originally Posted by cloud View Post
    SP-Sensing Perciever
    Sj-Sensing Judger
    NJ-Intuitive Judger
    NP-Intuitive Perciever
    = Se, Si, Ni, Ne. Done.

    Quote Originally Posted by cloud View Post
    TJ-Thinking Judger
    TP-Thinking Perciever
    FP-Feeling Perciever
    FJ-Feeling Judger
    = Te, Ti, Fi, Fe. Done.


    Yeah you've offered nothing new here whatsoever. All of these categories already exist. gg
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    hm, i interpreted this in a different way.

    cloud, does this
    Quote Originally Posted by cloud
    The highest scored 2 letters in your MBTI test should be taken out to represent your type.
    mean if i'm most strongly N over S and then P over J, then i'm NP?

    cause at first the same thing sim pointed out struck me... that there are equivalents for these things... but it is a good point that someone who's very strongly extraverted is going to be rather different than someone with a weak extraversion preference... but it'd end up such that you could only really represent relative E/I and J/P strength, because if S/N or F/T strength changes much, you turn into another type...

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    This has been done already. There are some serious Jungians (Mahlberg, Singer,Loomis, Burnery) that have written articles about their approach.

    A New Perspective for Jung's Typology - LOOMIS - 2006 - Journal of Analytical Psychology - Wiley Online Library

    This eliminates the problem of dichotomous types. Dichotomous types have never been scientifically proven. Most people cluster in the middle for each scale. That's why there are the never-ending discussions about am I P or J, S or N, T or F.

    You can be high T and High F etc. This confusion is the result of Jung's reliance on Alchemy for his inspiration.
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    Careful, posting anything about Singer and Loomis may cause a coronary in this forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simulatedworld View Post
    Yeah you've offered nothing new here whatsoever. All of these categories already exist. gg
    Although his terms might have analogs in Jungian typology, what he's fundamentally getting at is different than what Jungian typology claims.

    It's reframing the system to (a) remove the restriction that an extroverted judging function as dominant necessitates an introverted perceiving function as auxiliary, and (b) claim nothing about the role of lower-order preferences, functions, or dichotomies.

    His approach seems to be closer to, say, DISC or the Big Five.

    I'm not making any claim on how valid his system is, though.

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    I think sticking to the 4 letter types are good. Making changes just makes it more complicated. Thumbs up on the E out of the box T.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simulatedworld View Post
    = Si, Ti, Ni, Fi, Se, Te, Ne Fe. Done.



    = Pe dom, Je dom, Pi dom, Ji dom. Done.



    = SiTe or TiSe; SeFi or FeSi; NeTi or TeNi; NeFi or FeNi. Done.



    = Se, Si, Ni, Ne. Done.



    = Te, Ti, Fi, Fe. Done.


    Yeah you've offered nothing new here whatsoever. All of these categories already exist. gg

    Dude, WTF are you talking about.

    you just like to complexify things that no one would be able to understand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cloud View Post
    Dude, WTF are you talking about.

    you just like to complexify things that no one would be able to understand.
    if by no one you mean you, then sure
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