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    I keep on hearing about this inner world. I was reading that introverts can tell you exactly where their social roles end and their real self begins.

    What is all that about?


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    Can somebody explain introversion and extroversion as it relates to an object. I'd like to learn more about the way the individuals focus differs whether introverted or extroverted.

    I read Lenore Thomson and Jung's Classics but I need something more and am hoping somebody throws out an idea that clarifies it for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfy View Post
    I keep on hearing about this inner world. I was reading that introverts can tell you exactly where their social roles end and their real self begins.

    What is all that about?

    I like the picture.

    I would have to say that introversion, metaphorically, would be more astute to the inner-part of that picture; before where the glass shield is.

    Meanwhile, extraversion would be more astute to the outer-world, or where the octopi are and everything.

    In regards to social rules - because the introversion is more astute to the inner world, it may neglect externals. One of these externals might be social rules. This might give an introvert more of an awareness about where that metaphorical glass/barrier is and how to keep the world at bay by using it.

    So when you discuss this with an introvert, they may have a stronger sense of what separates their beliefs from what everybody else believes; though it's not a necessity.

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    Interesting. I have a quick question for everyone before I go out. How would you describe introversion and extroversion in terms of a feedback loop?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfy View Post
    Interesting. I have a quick question for everyone before I go out. How would you describe introversion and extroversion in terms of a feedback loop?
    Feedback loop? Well, there's something called "tertiary temptation", in which an individual starts to rely heavily on their tertiary, which bleeds into the dominant function sometimes even more so than the auxiliary.

    This can create a "loop", where someone tends to refer more to their inner our outer world depending on what their dominant function is. With extraverts, they may neglect their inner world, and with introverts, they may neglect the outer world. This doesn't mean, however, that they are dysfunctional. Their point of reference simply doesn't coincide exactly with what their models would have you believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mystic Tater View Post
    In regards to social rules - because the introversion is more astute to the inner world, it may neglect externals. One of these externals might be social rules. This might give an introvert more of an awareness about where that metaphorical glass/barrier is and how to keep the world at bay by using it.
    Sometimes I haven't been good at more.. festive or practical social rules.. and then sometimes, I honestly think have a better take on morality in some contexts, where I might be able to elevate a situation. Not neglect it. I've gotten better at practical things though.. there was a time where I'd forget to do simple things, like say goodbye or shake hands. Until people kept telling me. Other things I haven't made sense of yet. Like I've never been to a funeral for example. I've upset people from that.. which is not my intent. I don't really want to explain it atm though.

    Otherwise, I can be pretty corrective in traditional "value" type of ways. That goes pretty far back actually. Some kids used to call me "preacher" when I was younger. It didn't really win me over with anyone. But to me, their social rules weren't rules at all. They could veer on being neglectful, dangerous, mean, insulting.. whatever. Same can happen now. The social landscape is sometimes careless when it comes to rules, so I wouldn't even necessarily say it always has rules. Or rather, different types of groups have different rules. And I have my own constant inner take on that. Some people I might sync with, some I may be at odds with.

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    I regard the extroverted functions as being ways of relating to or dealing with the world at large. They create an urge to explore, experiment or evaluate the pragmatic utility of something.

    The introverted are ways of understanding/assessing the world. The create an urge to evaluate the reasons for doing something or the subjective worth of a thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy View Post
    I regard the extroverted functions as being ways of relating to or dealing with the world at large. They create an urge to explore, experiment or evaluate the pragmatic utility of something.

    The introverted are ways of understanding/assessing the world. The create an urge to evaluate the reasons for doing something or the subjective worth of a thing.
    This is a very good explanation, imo.

    Introversion would pick one aspect of the picture and focus intently on it until it understands everything about it in depth. Quality over quantity.

    Extroversion would look at the entire picture at once and try to understand as many different aspects of it as possible, but necessarily in less depth. Quantity over quality.

    I will use a quote from one of the most brilliant ISFPs of all time, the venerable Mr. Bruce Lee, to illustrate this point:

    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce Lee
    I fear not the man who has practiced a thousand kicks once, but I fear the man who has practiced one kick a thousand times.
    In this quote Mr. Lee is clearly extolling the virtues of introversion. Extroversion would prompt us to practice a thousand kicks once each; introversion would prompt us to practice one kick a thousand times.
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    An introvert told me that he has an inner-self and an outer-self and he is very clear on which is which. He says his inner-self tells his outer-self how to behave in order to be socially appropriate. Basically he sends his "representative" to social situations acting at the behest of his inner-self.
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    that seems a tiny bit nuts.
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