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    `~~Philosoflying~~` SillySapienne's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post

    Does the desire for connection-making ever stop for the Ne-user? The answer is: nope.

    You guys are always looking to make new connections to better fill out the sphere's surface area.

    We are always focusing in on the center.

    Therein lies the difference.
    What's your center?

    No one grows from ceasing to allow themselves to know more about what they think they already know.

    You always do this, "I know this already"

    "Waste of my time"

    Do you know what my center is?

    Know thyself, and by knowing yourself you must realize that you are a dynamic living sentient being dealing with a highly unpredictable dynamic environment.

    Life changes, circumstances change, but if you stay true to yourself and what you love, you must commit to fostering and facilitating those things.

    There is no carrot, there is no enlightenment, there is inevitable death, that's all.

    So, what's left, the life that you as an adult *choose* to live.

    The more you know the more you grow, intellectually, and even spiritually.

    But, there are sometimes when you have to just let go of your(pl.) need to mentally understand and control your surroundings, sometimes the answer also lies in just letting go, letting go.

    I like to do both.

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    "That that is, is. That that is not, is not. Is that it? It is."

    Veritatem dies aperit

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    Quote Originally Posted by onemoretime View Post
    Yup. Describe the software all you like, it means nothing unless you can apply it.
    You don't read between the lines very well.


    Quote Originally Posted by SillySapienne View Post
    No one grows from ceasing to allow themselves to know more about what they think they already know.
    Absolutely true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SillySapienne View Post
    What's your center?

    No one grows from ceasing to allow themselves to know more about what they think they already know.

    You always do this, "I know this already"
    I know you like to consider yourself smarter than me, but have you considered the possibility that in those circumstances I do already know whatever you're bringing up, and have integrated it into the surface area of the sphere?

    You still seem to be missing out on the point that the sphere is the totality of potential perspectives about the matter, and that we have integrated everything we've learned throughout our life -- and otherwise -- into our perspective that focuses, from that base of knowledge (the surface area) onto the center (i.e., the issue at hand).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    Absolutely true.
    But useless (and indeed, detrimental) when falsely applied.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    But useless (and indeed, detrimental) when falsely applied.
    Are you going to edit 22 or 23 more times?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orobas View Post
    Silly...

    check this out...just in case you ever want to be an Fe user...

    NLP Meta Programs, by John David Hoag


    Also do you have any suggested reading in abstract math? I am considering a new topic outside of jungian psychology to become my new time sink. I have determined I am morally offended by 4/0=undefined, so I would like to dig a bit deeper into math.
    Rudy Rucker - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Loved this one

    Infinity and the Mind - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    He's the MAN.

    Total ENTP.

    Me likey his work a lot.

    OOOoOOoOoooOOOOooooooo.

    This next non-fiction piece you MUST READ, I read it in a day, simply enthralled.

    You're a science gal so you can take it, it's a relatively dense read, ridiculously interesting though, and totally comprehensible.



    Charles Seife - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Zero: The Biography of a Dangerous Idea.

    I was obsessed with Zero and infinity since I was a young girl, I always thought that a number divided by zero was infinity, don't exactly know why, but that's what I thought, but my teachers always told me no, it's undefined.


    Division by zero - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    I have such crazy theories regarding numbers and math it's silly really.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    You don't read between the lines very well.
    Maybe. What can I say, I'm having fun here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    Are you going to edit 22 or 23 more times?
    What can I say?

    I'm a perfectionist.


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    SS, you are now my goddess! (Did you ever take linear algebra? it almost gives me orgasms....)

    I also have always been obsessed with zero and infinity. When I learned about limits I was utterly enthralled as it completed a little portion of my world...what happens as things get closer and closer together....? Another moment of utter beauty was in pChem when I learned that half of the D orbitals in a metallic bond are actually imaginary numbers. WTF does that really mean, except that we really lack a complete understanding of the world around us?

    In these nooks and crannies is where, if there is a god, I think he may reside.

    Ahhh....

    And Z, the danger of being an INTJ, is that you falsely limit your Ni input, granted I appreciate why you do so, however that boundary condition prevents you at times from building proper Ni models. To limit information input prematurely-especially if it is Si input, which you will innately distrust, is a very real hazard. It will be "just a story", thus you will disregard it. Si is your weakest link....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orobas View Post
    And Z, the danger of being an INTJ, is that you falsely limit your Ni input, granted I appreciate why you do so, however that boundary condition prevents you at times from building proper Ni models. To limit information input prematurely-especially if it is Si input, which you will innately distrust, is a very real hazard. It will be "just a story", thus you will disregard it. Si is your weakest link....
    Regarding rejecting input: I am an extremely curious person, always looking for new information. But when I hear someone explaining something to me that I already know: what am I to do? Unlearn it for them so they can teach me?

    Regarding Si: my dad's an ISTJ, my mom's an ESFJ, and my sister either ISTJ or INTJ: I think I'm actually pretty good with Si...

    Fe, on the other hand...

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