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    Default Functions explained in own words

    So, it would be nice if the functions would be explained in own words.
    What is & how does it feel / how does it look for outsider?

    Ne
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    Se
    Si

    Fe
    Fi

    Te
    Ti

    Example how I understand the following functions:

    Ne: Connecting things, reading between lines, seeing pattern, seeing something that is not said & that it's not there (no real evidence). E.g. understanding what other people really means even if it is not said in loud.

    Te: Organizing everything: things & people. Visible organizing and organizing things in head. Categorizing & labelling. E.g. organizing pencils on desk so they are in order longest first and the shortest last. Organizing people to complete a project.

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    I think Ni by far is the most difficult function to understand, while all the others are easier to get a grip on. My shot at explaining Ni though:

    Ni: This function speaks a highly individual language, whose insights of the universal nature of things or the future are almost impossible to translate.

    Ti: The voice of clarity!

    Fe: Kindness.

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    My always-incomplete and most probably rather inaccurate comments on each pair of functions, in the order I "know" them from best to worst.

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    Ne/Ni:

    Ne: what *could* this mean? How many different ways of looking at it can I find? How many different meanings can I imagine for it? Expansive: starts with one word/fact/idea, and builds entire hypothetical worlds upon it.

    Ni: what *does* this mean? How can I organise all those disparate facts/ideas into a single coherent ensemble? Structuring: starts with many words/ideas/facts and aims at building a single structure that will incorporate them all.

    ***

    Fe/Fi:

    Fe: what do *you* feel? Tell me what you're feeling and I'll feel it too. How can I make you feel something in particular? What effect do I have on you? Works from outside-in, other-centered.

    Fi: what do *I* feel? I can feel what you're feeling without you telling me. What do you make me feel like? What effect do you have on me? Words from inside-out, self-centered (<= technical term, not judgement)

    ***

    Te/Ti:

    Te: how can I organise things?

    Ti: what is the natural order of things?

    ***

    Se/Si:

    Se: how is the world interacting with my senses?

    Si: how is my body interacting with my senses?

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    Great post Wandering, truly one of the best I have read in a while, a revelation, so thanks. I was thinking some about your Ni definition, and in a way it also explains why the results of Ni are so hard to explain to others. Ni is synthesising views, you might take a bit from different perspectives, and it is no wonder that is both hard to explain to others and hard for others to understand. Ni views always seem to come with a twist, and are rarely exactly like more common perspectives, although they might be mistaken for being exactly one of those common perspectives by the listener, which leads to misunderstandings and frustration.

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    Thanks :blushing: !

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    I found a great article on Ni. Let me see if I can find it in my bookmarks.

    Found it. It explains the difference between Ne and Ni. Since they're so difficult to understand and relate to, a full explanation with examples can be helpful.

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    You're cheating, Momma The OP was asking for you to explain the functions *in your own words*

    Unless of course you're discreetly trying to tell us something about you being Lenore Thomson or something ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wandering View Post
    You're cheating, Momma The OP was asking for you to explain the functions *in your own words*

    Unless of course you're discreetly trying to tell us something about you being Lenore Thomson or something ?
    Well, no. I'm just learning myself, so I can't describe it very well yet.

    Is her explanation for NI and Ne the opposite of what you said?

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    Quote Originally Posted by INTJMom View Post
    Well, no. I'm just learning myself, so I can't describe it very well yet.

    Is her explanation for NI and Ne the opposite of what you said?
    I think maybe so. I have read tons on the site you linked to, but it's so hard to find an essence in what's being said. Things seem to contradict each other, and I always seem to end up confused. But isn't it logical Ne is more open-ended than Ni? People with dominant or secondary Ne are Ps, people with dominant or secondary Ni are Js.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Splittet View Post
    I think maybe so. I have read tons on the site you linked to, but it's so hard to find an essence in what's being said. Things seem to contradict each other, and I always seem to end up confused. But isn't it logical Ne is more open-ended than Ni? People with dominant or secondary Ne are Ps, people with dominant or secondary Ni are Js.
    You could be right. It makes logical sense to me.

    Although I have read that INTPs are thought of as more stubborn than INTJs. Less willing to change their mind? Too entrenched in their own theories?

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