I thought it was Ti that is notorious for being a logic/argument structure/detail Nazi. Te-stupido would be more about enforcing agenda, structure and procedures for no practical reason other than to have agenda, structure and procedures.
Te --> PowerPoint
Ti --> Word...as far as 80 paged detailed legal contracts are concerned.
"Empirical thinking is at the core of extraverted Thinking when we challenge someone’s ideas based on the logic of the facts in front of us or lay out reasonable explanations for decisions or conclusions made, often trying to establish order in someone else’s thought process."
Still seems like Te to me. You see some insignificant small detail might look like reasonable logical explanation to Te if it is trying too hard to find something to support his point of view. And that is what makes Te stupid when it tries to find something to support its thinking from things that in reality does not support the thinking, even tho it might find some small fraction on it to partly support it(judging too fast if it supports it or not before looking at it more deeply).
Apparently you are not aware of the fact that the definition of Te you posted has almost nothing to do with what you've described as "stupid Te." Let me disabuse you of your foolish notions.
What it says in the Te description:
1. Challenges ideas based on facts in front of them.
2. Gives reasonable explanations for conclusions or decisions.
3. Tries to organize the thinking of others.
What you've said:
1. Resorts to petty tactics (such as focusing on useless details) in order to win an argument/support conclusions derived irrationally.
Really all you've said here is that you don't like people who are stubborn in their opinions, and Te users are certainly not the only people guilty of such behavior.
Originally Posted by INTP
I was hoping more of this kind of comments from Te users where they cant see what isnt said and thats why getting to wrong conclusions on what people are trying to tell them. Part of the reason why i made this topic so that i could see if many Te users are like this.
They can't see what isn't said? Wouldn't that be more of a failing on the part of their interlocutor? If you don't explain yourself in a way that makes any sense, is it really reasonable to blame others for misunderstanding you?
Both Ti and Te can be stupid depending on how narrow the perspective their operating from. Maybe a genius Ti type might deduce the properties of a system almost strictly from a phenomenal perspective, but not all can do that. It'd be nice if they could. We'd probably be a far more advanced species than we are if that was the case. There's power in seeing the rules of a game before you even see all of the pieces. Sometimes though their reasoning is just arbitrary, and too arrogant to be open to more information, to see that the game is not what they first thought. Ironically, even if Galileo was a Ne-Ti type, I would say that he had to combat a stupid Ti system (one that was institutionalized by Si perhaps), and he had to use Te (or was it Pe?) to show the superiority of his own.
Te is stupid when it deals with objects on a piecemeal basis, not having a grasp (or at least not caring) of any underlying principles at play except their own habits or visions. It's not really the Te that is stupid in this case, I guess. It's the Pi. The more narrow or ambitious they are, the more they try to smash through or control. And if it's not stupid, it's not cool at least.
I'm pretty sure I'm missing something myself in this post. Just my 2c..