Si is when you look at details from introverted point of view. Even if it was N who was using this kind of details with Te, it sees the details on extroverted point of view. Its same as that Ti is also pretty detailed about its definitions and noticing small details when trying to spot inconsistencies in logic, and that doesent require the usage of S. S is an information gathering function and it gathers details instead of judging details like Ti and Te does.
I think sensors are worse in this detail thing than intuitives, because they not only judge details, but they see more details that they can judge than intuitives do.
My, your opinions are unpleasant.
"Sentiment without action is the ruin of the soul." - Edward Abbey
"Empirical thinking is at the core of extraverted Thinking when we challenge someone’s ideas based on the logic of the facts in front of us or lay out reasonable explanations for decisions or conclusions made, often trying to establish order in someone else’s thought process."
When Te thinks that other person is wrong and it is only concerned being right in the argument and proving it, by smashing the other persons opinion and prove its own opinion right by using logic(and when Te is stupid it tries to prove others wrong and itself right using irrelevant small details that only seemingly looks right, but if you look it more deeply it actually proves nothing, this is because stupid Te makes too fast judgments).
That sounds more like a personal flaw rather than a function gone wrong. With that being said, I can ses where you're coming from. From my stints on other typology forums, extreme Te users who can not deal with the 'pain' of being wrong and as such, over compensate in the way that you described. Funny though, that they sometimes use bad Ti to try to prove their points; bad as in you can tell that they aren't adept at using it. Bad Te is quite annoying, just like any function used in a negative manner.
"Taste. I have no taste. I don't like these tiny portions or your artful abortions of sound, sealed with a kiss, slathered in the sauce sarcastic. So go choke on your irony"
"Life for you, has been less than kind
So take a number, stand in line
We've all been sorry, we've all been hurt
But how we survive, is what makes us who we are"
agreed. nice to see an intj who didnt make judgment about what i said before understanding it
Unless I'm mistaken, what you said is there's a design flaw with Te that lets people approach argument with inadequate logical perspective but thinking they've done enough. However you misused an apostrophe in your original post.
Bellison uncorked a flood of horrible profanity, which, translated, meant, "This is extremely unusual."
But i said it kinda in a way that stupid Te looking at this topic would think i said so, since i wanted to see how many Te users fall into that and how many would get what im actually saying.
It's frustrating for me to think of "stupid Te" and "Te is stupid" as separate entities. It's kind of like how Simulatedworld made a thread talking about Conspiracy Fi, which was meant to be a separate entity from non-conspiracy Fi.
Those who prefer Ti don't need external criteria for their reasoning while those who prefer Te do. That doesn't mean that either preference is innately stupid. You might want to make your posts less provocative and more sober. But, of course, your intent was to provoke reactions from the same demographic you were talking about and then tell us we were exhibiting the same behavior you were describing. Right?
I understand everything you're saying except for the notion of "details". I think drudgery details can be seen from anyone. It doesn't even have to do with sensing functions. For instance, Ti is said to spot nuances in words and models, just as you said that you didn't mention Ti being stupid. I understand this sort of thinking is essential for those who want to be precise in their logic. I would anticipate that those who prefer Fe might perceive Fi as being detail oriented as well. This is because Fe generally pertains to harmony in relation to the collective, as opposed to harmony in relation to the subject. Obviously, the subject is much more particular than the collective, and as such, he/she might be seen as a dispensable detail. I still can't see how Te could be perceived as detail oriented unless the user is referring to external data that is irrelevant or on the fringe of your own thought process.