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    Default An Article in the Paper

    I read an article in the paper the other day.
    The story was about a politician in a European country.

    A man retired with honours.
    An intellectual.
    An intelligent chap.

    This is what the paper said.

    I have an addition to make.

    A traitor.
    An ESTJ.

    The ESTJs make the best traitors.
    Why?
    Because they toe the line.

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    *blinks* Is being a traitor necessarily a bad thing? Would you call them fearful for not daring to step over the line or clever in adapting for self preservation?

    Te dominant. Objective is all that matters... I suppose they can be traitors. Are they the best though? Hmmmm can we not say the same of ENTJs? But traitors of other things? What about other types?

    No no... you're only a traitor if you go against what you believe in... Other people will believe in other things. Looking back then, all will be traitors.

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    Differently defined morals and priorities, maybe. I know an ESTJ who can be very much like that though.

    Wait, what did the paper say?
    Still using a needle to break apart a grain of sand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FallsPioneer View Post
    Wait, what did the paper say?
    It wasn't about this:

    Ambassador Rusi demands Finland to look into espionage by KGB, Stasi

    was it wildcat?

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    Define traitor. I've found that I often disagree with people as to what defines a traitor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nightning View Post
    *blinks* Is being a traitor necessarily a bad thing? Would you call them fearful for not daring to step over the line or clever in adapting for self preservation?

    Te dominant. Objective is all that matters... I suppose they can be traitors. Are they the best though? Hmmmm can we not say the same of ENTJs? But traitors of other things? What about other types?

    No no... you're only a traitor if you go against what you believe in... Other people will believe in other things. Looking back then, all will be traitors.
    Is a traitor necessarily a bad thing? It depends on who is the judge.
    The famous English traitors of the 30s were villains in England and heroes in the Soviet Union. Originally they were antifascists and in the end they became communist supporters. Stalin wanted them to support the fascists.
    They were fearful and therefore clever.
    One of them was told to kill Franco. Can you kill a statesman and not be caught? Usually not.
    He did not kill Franco. He was afraid. In the end he did not want to give his life for Stalin.
    Stalin let him life. The traitor was still useful.

    The ENTJs are too independent to be useful traitors. But they can become double or triple traitors.

    In the mind of a fanatic all people are traitors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FallsPioneer View Post
    Differently defined morals and priorities, maybe. I know an ESTJ who can be very much like that though.

    Wait, what did the paper say?
    Yes. Differently defined morals and prorities. Exactly.
    Can you tell more of this ESTJ?

    The paper said interesting things. Alas I cannot give the details. Otherwise it will be known who I mean. I should be shot down immediately. Figuratively speaking. And that would not be the end of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ygolo View Post
    I do not mean mr Rusi. He was not a traitor as far as I know. It appears he was falsely accused.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wandering View Post
    Define traitor. I've found that I often disagree with people as to what defines a traitor.
    If you undertake illegal operations in France at the behest of the Slovenian government you are a traitor in the mind of the French.
    Last edited by wildcat; 01-07-2008 at 03:59 AM.

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