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    Oh, I'm pretty sure that I do compensate in my expression based on the environment to some degree. For instance, in this post from a technical forum from several years ago, and I don't think I really seem like an INFJ from anything you can see readily...

    There is no option to do this in Snes9x itself, because all of the SNES's audio goes through the same chip. Some games have internal options for adjusting the volume of the music, but many do not. This is not a problem for most, and would be difficult to implement at best, and impossible at worst. In any case, it is unlikely to be added to a future version of Snes9x.

    An effect close to what you are trying to acheive can be produced in ZSNES by disabling the first five sound channels. It is not perfect, however, and portions of the background music are still played.

    Even if this were possible, you could not use Winamp or any other audio application to play background music whilst the emulator was running. Two applications cannot play audio at the same time, unless of course you have two sound cards or a very advanced sound card and special drivers. You could however play the music on a stereo separate from the computer.
    It would be impossible to guess my type from that post. So I do agree that there's a degree of compensation...

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    Quote Originally Posted by nightning View Post
    I kind of see what wildcat means... but I agree with you that the traditional meaning of the two, compensation and change aren't the same.

    You have suspensions... a spring being compressed. Does it return to its original position after stress? No quite... close to it, but not quite. And so there has been change. But the change isn't to become something else... more like a stretchier version of the same. The more you practice, the easier it becomes. You've changed, but you haven't become the other type.
    Well I do declare! Tonight you should take over the world. It'd become a much better place

    Quite true, the change is an increase capacity for change and some other residual effects. I guess purists would claim that this itself is the straw that breaks the camels back but I would retort that all learning is change. Even reading a book is change. It's the only real constant.
    Isn't it time for a colourful metaphor?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wildcat View Post
    Yes.
    Any system breaks up with enough pressure. Escape (=compensation; change) is a way to put up with pressure a little while longer.

    My father was an alcoholic bohemian fiddler who used to sleep in taverns.
    One day he changed. People asked: Is this the same man?

    I guess the escape had become a burden. The medicine had become a poison.
    Then he just stopped using the medicine, that is all.

    Does Sun revolve around the Earth? Einstein did not know.
    The change is not in us. It is in the circumstances. Not a bad way to put it.
    You are perfectly at liberty to refuse to answer this old friend, I'm not sure you'd wish to divulge more so feel free to refuse.

    In the case of your father, would you say he was flexing or breaking? I mean was there a definitive change in his cognitive wiring or just what his choices were?
    Quote Originally Posted by wildcat View Post
    Mece now? In the arctic winter I shall need my mittens. My suspension strut is all ice.
    MECE? Always

    As for ice covered suspension, see the silver lining? No? Well there's no leaves if it's all snow No leaves = no leaf blowers!!!
    Isn't it time for a colourful metaphor?

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    Quote Originally Posted by athenian200 View Post
    Oh, I'm pretty sure that I do compensate in my expression based on the environment to some degree. For instance, in this post from a technical forum from several years ago, and I don't think I really seem like an INFJ from anything you can see readily...

    It would be impossible to guess my type from that post. So I do agree that there's a degree of compensation...
    Actually I read through that and I wouldn't have pegged you for an NT still. There's not enough technical gumph for an NT

    I guess you could get ST from it which would be your alternate thinking style. Mind you this is with the benefit of hindsight. Also you INFJs are swines to type normally, there's nothing unusual in that. :steam:
    Isn't it time for a colourful metaphor?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xander View Post
    You are perfectly at liberty to refuse to answer this old friend, I'm not sure you'd wish to divulge more so feel free to refuse.

    In the case of your father, would you say he was flexing or breaking? I mean was there a definitive change in his cognitive wiring or just what his choices were?

    MECE? Always

    As for ice covered suspension, see the silver lining? No? Well there's no leaves if it's all snow No leaves = no leaf blowers!!!
    When you flex too much you start to break. My father did not break because he was given a job. He suddenly understood he was given a chance to survive.

    NO LEAF BLOWERS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xander View Post
    Well I do declare! Tonight you should take over the world. It'd become a much better place

    Quite true, the change is an increase capacity for change and some other residual effects. I guess purists would claim that this itself is the straw that breaks the camels back but I would retort that all learning is change. Even reading a book is change. It's the only real constant.
    YES! The insanely fearless mouse will take over the world!

    Question now is... what will happen afterwards?

    Quote Originally Posted by Xander View Post
    Also you INFJs are swines to type normally, there's nothing unusual in that. :steam:
    I think INFJs just have natural tendencies to compensate. Compensation to make interactions with others people smoother. If that makes us swines... lol!

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    Quote Originally Posted by wildcat View Post
    When you flex too much you start to break. My father did not break because he was given a job. He suddenly understood he was given a chance to survive.
    An interesting question for you.

    When a person snaps and loses their control do they snap and change their type or do they in fact snap back into an extreme version of their own current type?

    For example if I just lost it one day (I can just feel this is asking for it) and I snap, am I then more INTP than normal or less? I would hazard a guess that I'd be more likely to retract into my comfort zone and more flagrantly display my preferences and the thing I would lose is my flexibility.
    Quote Originally Posted by wildcat View Post
    NO LEAF BLOWERS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Right.
    There is always the dream
    Isn't it time for a colourful metaphor?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nightning View Post
    YES! The insanely fearless mouse will take over the world!

    Question now is... what will happen afterwards?
    Well the real question you'd have to ask is could you, in all honesty, do any worse than the current lot providing you keep your sensibilities?
    Quote Originally Posted by nightning View Post
    I think INFJs just have natural tendencies to compensate. Compensation to make interactions with others people smoother. If that makes us swines... lol!
    Compensate nothing, it's the whole "I have strong emotions" yeah buried in your boots under about a ton of calm frickin water! Swines!!!

    I find INTPs, ESTJs, ESTPs, ENTPs ...hell anyone, easier to read than an INFJ!
    Isn't it time for a colourful metaphor?

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    *strolls in with more blatant yet maddeningly obscure ENFJ perving that forces you to compensate*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xander View Post
    Well the real question you'd have to ask is could you, in all honesty, do any worse than the current lot providing you keep your sensibilities?
    A trip down to the imaginary la la land... Well if you phrase it that way, probably not, at least for the first little while. Then I don't care anymore... people can do whatever... would that be better, worse or the same as the existing situation? Not sure.
    Compensate nothing, it's the whole "I have strong emotions" yeah buried in your boots under about a ton of calm frickin water! Swines!!!

    I find INTPs, ESTJs, ESTPs, ENTPs ...hell anyone, easier to read than an INFJ!
    Would you rather that "I have strong emotions" without the water? That'll be INFJs on the war path... I can just imagine that day when all of us do that... It'll be a sight.

    Read us? Why don't you take the simplest route and ask us?

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