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    My best friend of almost 10 years is an INFJ. She doesn't like to lead, but recently became a manager and moved up the work ladder. They had offered it to her before and she declined, but this time I think they persuaded her by showing her how she was helping out the store. It seems to me that when she is either very happy and caring, she will lead, and also when she is furious, she will take the lead -out of impatience. I think whenever a strong emotion is involved, then they are inclined to be a get-it-done leader. Very thorough and fast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Halla74 View Post
    Of course INFJs can be leaders.

    Their leadership style will be different than other MBTI types, but leadership style varies from person to person on a number of different levels anyway.

    Anyone who believes in themselves, believes in what they are doing, and has the will to project their beliefs into the world around them has great potential to be a leader.


    some people's personalities are more leadership-oriented (ESTJ, ENFJ, e3, e8), but that doesn't necessarily mean they'll be the best leaders, or that the other types are not fit to lead. like halla said, there are many different leadership styles and many different leadership roles to be taken on in life. a great CEO, for example, might make a rather shitty minister, and vice versa...

    it seems to me that Is are better off/more likely to lead if they have a specific agenda or ideals, whereas Es, especially with high Fe, may end up in leadership positions because they connect people so well. an introvert may well be a better figurehead in positions that require deep consideration of other's opinions, good listening skills, keeping things on the downlow, and formal communication/expression (esp via writing or music). i suspect plenty of profs i've had are Is, and they're the ones who tend to stun you with the genius ideas they pull out of seemingly nowhere - and who may be less divulgent at first but seem very genuinely interested when they do open up.

    just for the record, i have low Fe, low Ni, and have been appointed or voted to and done well in several leadership positions... so there's no telling :P i really think it's all about understanding the group you are leading, why you are in that position, and how you can use yourself to further the group agenda (and improve the group). i've tried to break down my leadership style by functions, and i'm thinking Ne is especially useful for brainstorming and what-if analysis, Ne and Fi together are useful for "reading" group atmosphere or individuals (reallyyy useful when there is tension), Fi is good for making sure we're sticking to the group's mission and values, and Te is useful for... well, pretty much everything practical. i figure it helps make up for J, lol. that and my penchant for fun-colored organizational supplies

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    OK, so how do I 'lead'/manage a type 8?

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    Quote Originally Posted by upamountain View Post
    OK, so how do I 'lead'/manage a type 8?
    Show him who's boss. If he defies you, threaten to fire him and MEAN IT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by upamountain View Post
    OK, so how do I 'lead'/manage a type 8?
    What BlackCat said. Maybe.
    Or you could get him/her to like you very much.
    Then you could wrap said person around your little finger and guilt-trip them into doing whatever you want.
    INFJs are great at that, no?

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    Thanks for the suggestions. Actually I think she does like me and no, I'm not that good at wrapping people round my little finger... at least, not deliberately.

    So now my boss tells me that if I can't guarantee to control '8', I have to sack her. What are my chances? (Of being able to control her). I think I'm a 5, but get different results every time I do that test. She just stands out as an 8 with tendencies to 7.

    The complication is we are kind of friends - although this is probably more due to circumstance and the fact that there are very few other options in terms of ex-pats around here.

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    That's a tough spot to be in. I'm a teacher and so sympathize and will also be interested in the responses that come out of this!

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    In the past when I had more energy I tended to end up in leadership positions in school settings. The two core traits that it brings out in me are organization and inspiration for others. Usually more than my share of people start by testing me and introducing power struggles. I usually respond with intentional respect and patience to break that cycle, but that part tends to wear me out. I have trouble letting go of a desire for people to act in a reasoned and empathetic manner. (I don't see those as opposite poles, but intertwining by nature because they both seek to view external data accurately, whether objective or subjective in nature.) I deliberately avoid using fear, and other external motivators because I know once it's gone, the motivation goes with it, so I try to bring about internal motivation by showing people how something is important to them individually. If I am caught up in something I see as important, it seems my public speaking can get others going.

    It has been years since I led outside the context of a small group such as a classroom, but it's in there some place. I might be taking a leadership position in a charitable organization over the next year, so we'll see if I still have it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by upamountain View Post
    Thanks for the suggestions. Actually I think she does like me and no, I'm not that good at wrapping people round my little finger... at least, not deliberately.

    So now my boss tells me that if I can't guarantee to control '8', I have to sack her. What are my chances? (Of being able to control her). I think I'm a 5, but get different results every time I do that test. She just stands out as an 8 with tendencies to 7.

    The complication is we are kind of friends - although this is probably more due to circumstance and the fact that there are very few other options in terms of ex-pats around here.
    I think if we had more context then it would help. But if she's your friend you may be able to reason with her more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackCat View Post
    I think if we had more context then it would help. But if she's your friend you may be able to reason with her more.
    The main problem is she is very blunt with other people and if she thinks (probably rightly) that they aren't doing a good job, she tells them so in no uncertain terms. Then she tells me how awful they are. Then she manages to put all sorts of pressure on them so they end up running to my boss. He wants a guarantee that she won't deal with people. But as she's someone who just thinks out loud I don't know that she'll be able to control herself, let alone me control her!

    Other issues for me are that she can get seen as the leader, not me. ِAnd she is a great ideas person and initiator, but she doesn't always follow through - once she's bored she wants to move onto something else, but I need her to stay in the routine of things that have to be done every day.

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