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    Default is this correct difference of thinking between Fe/Fi?

    Ill use this situation as an example:

    You see someone(that you dont know) fall with his bike and he gets hurt pretty badly, but not so badly that his life would be in danger.

    Fi user would set himself in the bikers situation and therefore feel bad for him. Using Ne or Se in combination with Fi. Fi user with Ne would think what if this would happen to me(the whole situation about falling, maybe he was hurt somewhere else(thats not showing) also, people looking at him but just passing by etc) and maybe Si if he would have been in similar situation before. Fi user Se user would see the wounds, and set himself in the situation where he would have this kind of wounds himself and therefore feeling bad for him.

    Fe user would feel bad for the guy without setting himself in the bikers situation. Im not sure how Ni/Si would effect this, maybe someone can explain it? Or maybe Si/Ni wouldnt make as big of a difference to this for Fe users than Se/Ne does make for Fi users?

    So, both Fi and Fe users would get to same conclusion about this(feeling bad for the guy who fell with his bike), but from different perspectives(setting himself on the bikers situation or not).

    Do you guys think this is the correct process or Fi/Fe way of extroverting their feeling function?

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    I always understood Fe as tied to cultural values and that sort of thing, so wouldn't that factor into the Fe user's understanding of it being the "right" thing to do?
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    not sure about Fe, but that's kind of how Fi would play out for me. whether it's physical or emotional, i'll feel or identify with someone's pain - at times though, i may not know enough of the person to express myself (especially in emotional cases..i may need more familiarity. it's quite easy to help a stranger in a physical accident though). unfortunately...! if it wasn't too harmless of an accident, and they fell in some contorted way, i'm gonna laugh.

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    I think human beings of all sorts would feel a mix of both.

    Maybe the mix and how it is processed is impacted by cognitive perspective, but to say an Fe user doesn't empathize at all with a victim is a bit ridiculous, IMO.
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    It's personal vs societal values. If we take the extreme case of only one orientation of the F function at a time, then 100% Fe would be thinking what would a 'normal' person do in my place. What's the normal etiquette? Would he/she go and help the person?

    100% Fi would be ignore any outside influence at all. What the Fi-user would do will be based totally on his values. If he has a value that everyone should take care of themselves, then he will ignore and carry on. If his value is that people should help each other, then he will help.
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    I don't know if I'd call Fe "societal." More environmental. It may seem like hairsplitting but I think it's an important distinction. Fe users are perfectly capable of being counter-cultural and societal. It's just that their source of "F-ness" will always be external.



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    I think Fe is more likely to think "what is expected of me to feel?"

    I think Fe is much more society-bound. Not bound by tradition or anything like that. It's more socially aware. We are all cogs inside a big machine. It thinks of the group a lot more.

    It's tough to explain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JocktheMotie View Post
    I don't know if I'd call Fe "societal." More environmental. It may seem like hairsplitting but I think it's an important distinction. Fe users are perfectly capable of being counter-cultural and societal. It's just that their source of "F-ness" will always be external.
    Yeah, environmental seems like a more accurate word. Less likely to lead to assumptions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sytpg View Post
    I think Fe is more likely to think "what is expected of me to feel?"

    I think Fe is much more society-bound. Not bound by tradition or anything like that. It's more socially aware. We are all cogs inside a big machine. It thinks of the group a lot more.

    It's tough to explain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JocktheMotie View Post
    I don't know if I'd call Fe "societal." More environmental. It may seem like hairsplitting but I think it's an important distinction. Fe users are perfectly capable of being counter-cultural and societal. It's just that their source of "F-ness" will always be external.
    Ok, I can buy that
    What happens when an Fe user goes to a foreign land with differing values? Which will be given a higher weightage?
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