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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatsWhatHeSaid View Post
    What? How? And how does the math actually relate at all? And what happening with these matrices anyway?
    From where I stand, the matrices are in-and-of themselves. Like a map, the Math proves it. You can go forward and backward. It becomes a framework. You can then merge other things into this framework like was done with functions in a previous post. Now lets take an 8x8 matrix. what can we do with it? Well we have 8 functions. We can create an 8x8 matrix with these functions and if we assign each function a number and place each in a place that corresponds to the number matrix then we have just merged the frameworks. Now what can we deduce, what can we prove. How well does it actually fit within this framework when we apply permeatations that works when we deal withi numbers? What if we rearrange Ti to be 5 instead of 2, then to get it all to work we must shift everything else as well. Why, because we have placed it within this framework and thats how this framewok works, wildcat already proved it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by poki View Post
    From where I stand, the matrices are in-and-of themselves. Like a map, the Math proves it. You can go forward and backward. It becomes a framework. You can then merge other things into this framework like was done with functions in a previous post. Now lets take an 8x8 matrix. what can we do with it? Well we have 8 functions. We can create an 8x8 matrix with these functions and if we assign each function a number and place each in a place that corresponds to the number matrix then we have just merged the frameworks. Now what can we deduce, what can we prove. How well does it actually fit within this framework when we apply permeatations that works when we deal withi numbers? What if we rearrange Ti to be 5 instead of 2, then to get it all to work we must shift everything else as well. Why, because we have placed it within this framework and thats how this framewok works, wildcat already proved it.
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    It's not a proof; it's a poem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morgan Le Fay View Post
    It's not a proof; it's a poem.
    whats the poem?

    edit: if it was a dream I could understand
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    God I wish Ti was one of my main functions; this stuff looks like Chinese to me. I'm sure this is useful in some way, but I don't have the time or patience to find the key to this apparent treasure box. Mathematicians astound me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by poki View Post
    whats the poem?
    It's a poem in the sense that it means different things to different people. It doesn't have a definite shape. You find a proof; I find a challenge to the bimodal assumptions upon which MBTI is built. And a thousand and one other connections that make my brain buzz. That's the beauty of wildcat's posts. They work on so many levels. And the tease is just as delicious as the reveal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morgan Le Fay View Post
    It's a poem in the sense that it means different things to different people. It doesn't have a definite shape. You find a proof; I find a challenge to the bimodal assumptions upon which MBTI is built. And a thousand and one other connections that make my brain buzz. That's the beauty of wildcat's posts. They work on so many levels. And the tease is just as delicious as the reveal.
    ok, fine...I will reword it "subjective proof" INTPs
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morgan Le Fay View Post
    It's a poem in the sense that it means different things to different people. It doesn't have a definite shape. You find a proof; I find a challenge to the bimodal assumptions upon which MBTI is built. And a thousand and one other connections that make my brain buzz. That's the beauty of wildcat's posts. They work on so many levels. And the tease is just as delicious as the reveal.
    Thanks Morgan Le Fay. A good post.
    And a strikingly accurate observation: There is not a definite shape.

    01234
    12345
    23456
    34567
    45678

    We cut the vertical/horizontal m at both ends:
    (23456)

    The original line is
    horizontally 012345678
    and vertically

    0
    1
    2
    3
    5
    5
    6
    7
    8

    including + vertical

    0
    12
    234
    3456
    45678
    5678
    678
    78
    8

    _ _ _ _ 0
    _ _ _ 0 1 2
    _ _ 0 1 2 3 4
    _ 0 1 2 3 4 5 6
    0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
    _ 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
    _ _ 4 5 6 7 8
    _ _ _ 6 7 8
    _ _ _ _ 8

    The turn rounds not only vertically and horizontally.
    There is the counter and the anticounter.
    Again we shift.
    We inward the outward, and we outward the inward.
    Russian dolls.

    It is as you say.
    Last edited by wildcat; 10-02-2010 at 01:49 AM.

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    How does the math relate at all?
    A good question.

    0
    1
    2
    3
    45678

    we had two lines

    4 - 4 = 0
    5 - 3 = 2
    6 - 2 = 4
    7 - 1 = 6
    8 - 0 = 8

    we have

    0
    12
    234
    3456
    45678

    we had

    +

    4
    2
    0

    -

    0
    2
    4

    we have

    01234
    1234
    234
    34
    4


    25 = 1 + 3 + 5 +7 + 9

    we have

    0 X T(1) = 0

    check

    1 X 9
    2 X 8
    3 X 7
    4 X 6
    5 X 5

    25
    24
    21
    16
    09
    00

    1 = 25 - 24
    3 = 24 - 21
    5 = 21 - 16
    7 = 16 - 09
    9 = 09 - 00

    we had the dichotomy of T(1)

    13579
    97531

    we have the dichotomy of 11

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    T in the loci

    2 + 4 = 6
    24 + (T)24 = 66
    66 = (T)66

    24 = 4 X 6 = 3 X 8 = 8 + 12 + 4

    in loci

    232
    343
    232

    = 24

    nine loci

    24 + 9 = 42 - 9 = 66/2

    we had

    232
    343
    232

    we have

    2 + 2
    3 + 2
    2 + 2
    3 + 2
    4 + 2
    3 + 2
    2 + 2
    3 + 2
    2 + 2

    454
    565
    454 =

    (T)24 in the loci

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