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    Senior Member Moonstone3's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagnificentMind View Post
    I can't imagine myself behaving like an ESFP. Hellz no.
    That's what I said, but in unusual outbursts-it's in there...
    What is normal to one, is incomprehensible to another.

    ALL anger in this world stems from a lack of control.


    All of reality bows to the illusion of life and death.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whatever View Post
    what would cause an ESTP to become depressed situationally? lack of freedom, boredom, feeling trapped...

    ever see an ESTP laze around and do as little as possible even when there are fun things going on?

    my friend is ESTP and enneagram 4, (weird combination i know), and when we were younger she was kinda dark, almost NF like... and grumpy.. it was all because of enneagram 4.... now she's like all ESTPs... very active and strong ..

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    One day and the next Rainne's Avatar
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    So when an ISTP gets depressed...

    We become ENFJs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rainne View Post
    So when an ISTP gets depressed...

    We become ENFJs?
    Man, I become an inanely cruel ISTP when I get pissed/depressed. I will flat out criticize the person on something that hurts them to the core and laugh about it. Also, I could care less about any insult they throw back at me.

    In my regular state, I worry way too much about offending people and get offended pretty easily.

    Knowing all that about me, I am scared to see an ISTP in their ENFJ shadow.

    The least scary shadow I have seen is the INFP's ESTJ shadow.

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    I wonder if this might be more enneagram related. I say that because the way I get depressed sounds more like 9s in general than ISTPs in general. When I get depressed I'm like an empty shell. I'm very unresponsive. And I sleep a lot.
    I have an inner monologue that sounds strikingly similar to something off Animal Planet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StephMC View Post
    I wonder if this might be more enneagram related. I say that because the way I get depressed sounds more like 9s in general than ISTPs in general. When I get depressed I'm like an empty shell. I'm very unresponsive. And I sleep a lot.
    Possibly. If it helps, I think I am a 3w4. However, what I said, was when I am in an extreme state.

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    For me and other ESTJs I know...

    Probable cause: Feeling weak or helpless - i.e. feeling like there are things that I need to do that I am unable to do, and that there's nothing that can be done to make things right

    Probable symptoms: Mood swings (abnormally gregarious/happy one minute, abnormally introverted/sad/angry the next), partaking in mindlessly fun activities instead of being productive, being more lazy and less motivated/organized, generally being a lot more quiet and reserved than usual

    Edit: In response to above posts about the "shadow" type, I think I become INFP-ish under extreme stress, but not when I'm depressed. I'm distinctly ESTJ (and especially distinctively enneagram 1) when I'm depressed. But when so much intense stuff has happened to me that I'm essentially going through a system overload, that's when I become INFP - retreating into myself, watching everything going on outside of me and KNOWING that no one could possibly understand how deeply I am FEELING everything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonstone3 View Post
    Every Myers Briggs type has a shadow side that they convert to when under extreme stress. This is a new development, but very widely accepted so far. It's generally very much the opposite of your true nature.
    I wouldn't say entirely. I know when I become depressed, I can be mistaken for a very moody E/INFJ. I don't think dominant functions go away enough for the type to just take the whole switcharoo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StephMC View Post
    And I sleep a lot.
    You mean more than usual? lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rainne View Post
    You mean more than usual? lol
    I know, right? It's unfathomable.
    I have an inner monologue that sounds strikingly similar to something off Animal Planet.

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