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    Default Why Did Jung leave typology behind?

    So Jung wrote "the transcendent function" first, then "Psychological types" later. Then he seemed to take a more holistic perspective calling out the "conscious and unconscious" rather than relying upon functions in his later work.

    (Based upon a cursory study, so PLEASE correct if I am wrong)

    It was like he had unified all the underlying functional typology to be inclusive in his discussions of jungian analysis-thus no longer seemed to need to call the topic out specifically? Just a guess, I really have no idea...

    Why did he leave the topic of personality types behind? Why did he not keep using it as a framework later on? Does anyone know?
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    I think you mean Typology????
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    Bwhahahahah!!! LOL, that is hysterical! My bad..Mods??? Can you fix my Ti fail in the thread title?

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    I'm curious... can you give me an example of this? What are you basing this off of?
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    I think he realized that his theory wasn't really as holistic as he had hoped it could be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orobas View Post
    So Jung wrote "the transcendent function" first, then "Psychological types" later. Then he seemed to take a more holistic perspective calling out the "conscious and unconscious" rather than relying upon functions in his later work.

    (Based upon a cursory study, so PLEASE correct if I am wrong)

    It was like he had unified all the underlying functional typology to be inclusive in his discussions of jungian analysis-thus no longer seemed to need to call the topic out specifically? Just a guess, I really have no idea...

    Why did he leave the topic of personality types behind? Why did he not keep using it as a framework later on? Does anyone know?
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    Hello Mr Out-of-boxy,

    Is it really that simple? (It really is isnt it...? wow. almost done with boxes...need to tidy up a few more things on the main floor before I head into the basement and the attic. Then I get to go outside and play!)

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    So that Victor could whine about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orobas View Post
    So Jung wrote "the transcendent function" first, then "Psychological types" later. Then he seemed to take a more holistic perspective calling out the "conscious and unconscious" rather than relying upon functions in his later work.

    (Based upon a cursory study, so PLEASE correct if I am wrong)

    It was like he had unified all the underlying functional typology to be inclusive in his discussions of jungian analysis-thus no longer seemed to need to call the topic out specifically? Just a guess, I really have no idea...

    Why did he leave the topic of personality types behind? Why did he not keep using it as a framework later on? Does anyone know?
    From stuff Lenore Thomson has been telling me over the past year, I get the sense that Jung never focused on type quite as much as we (following Myers-Briggs) have taken it. He aimed to be holistic all along, and then mentioned the functions of S, N, T and F (and the two orientations of them) as part of a theory on the conscious and unconscious. After all, we prefer one function or orientation, which becomes part of our "consciousness", and then the other remains in the "unconscious".
    This preference, she told me, was seen by Jung as a "wound on the psyche", and that Jung explicitly says that what he wanted to capture with his type theory was how we make choices we feel free to make, believing that one thing is better than another, and commandeer or block natural tendencies for the sake of aspiration or goal or larger purpose; not a way to characterize people by way of innate qualities. (Which is largely the influence of temperament theory, which we have mixed with it).

    So she said that it seems that people who get interested in Jung because of type theory tend to read him through the lens of whatever type model they've learned about, then wind up faulting him because he didn't anticipate the model well enough, and that everything Jung ever said winds up being explained by way of type concepts, as though "Psychological Types" were the apex of his life's work. Type theory is regarded as a kind of anomaly in his work, and most analysts see no practical application for it because it's been so contaminated by pop-cultural derivatives.
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    Eric B, you know this Lenore Thomson? How? I've heard the name around here several times...
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