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    Quote Originally Posted by Alcearos View Post
    What in earth are you all talking about?

    or is the better like this:

    What on earth are you all talking about?

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    Direction is not indicative of the path. This is why it is not the arrow. Direction is indicator of what you usually already know - the destination.

    The arrow is the result of your processing, and your own vague reminder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nadir View Post
    Direction is an illusion, but so is the contemplation of its illusory state...
    It doesn't really matter. Just think about it at least...
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    Quote Originally Posted by athenian200 View Post
    Because if there were no space between the notes and sounds, it would sound like a painful cacophony with almost unintelligible sounds, and thus be noise instead of music?
    Quote Originally Posted by wildcat View Post
    Yes. A cacophony is a virtual failure. Nothing would exist. Everything would come down in a crunch.
    It's almost like how we get colour, isn't it?

    It's not quite that...they are "spaces" per se, I think. Just void.

    Can you imagine everything being contained in one thing? What would this be?

    (...btw maybe someone might wanna combine my posts heh)
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    Quote Originally Posted by wildcat View Post
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    Oh, so the reasoning about the arrows applies to MBTI as well? You're saying that the types aren't indicating anything absolute, but only relative to something else, the person's own interpretations of the signs.

    Quote Originally Posted by niffer View Post
    Direction is not indicative of the path. This is why it is not the arrow. Direction is indicator of what you usually already know - the destination.

    The arrow is the result of your processing, and your own vague reminder.
    Very good. Sometimes it's hard to believe you're as young as you are. But then I remember that older people sometimes struggle with what you solve easily, and then I remember that age and experience help with certain kinds of understanding, but not others. It's strange.

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    Yes, athenian200.

    The MBTI is not about the 16 types. The 16 types is about the MBTI.
    The MBTI does not recognize the 16 types.

    Longitude and latitude recognize the Earth? Well.. almost.
    Does the the Earth recognize longitude and latitude?

    The latitude or the longitude is applicable beyond the measure?
    No.
    Are the 16 types applicable beyond their measure?
    No.

    Is the MBTI applicable beyond the measure?
    What measure?

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    Quote Originally Posted by niffer View Post
    Can you imagine everything being contained in one thing? What would this be?
    Have you ever heard of the "Big Bang" theory? Essentially, it claims that the entire universe was an infinitely dense singularity containing all matter that somehow expanded out from one point. I don't understand physics well enough to explain it better than that, though.

    Yes, athenian200.
    The MBTI is not about the 16 types. The 16 types is about the MBTI.
    The MBTI does not recognize the 16 types.

    Longitude and latitude recognize the Earth? Well.. almost.
    Does the the Earth recognize longitude and latitude?

    The latitude or the longitude is applicable beyond the measure?
    No.
    Are the 16 types applicable beyond their measure?
    No.

    Is the MBTI applicable beyond the measure?
    What measure?
    So... what is the underlying thing being measured in MBTI? It's not as obvious as it is with direction (points in space). It's got to do with personality, but it isn't as clear what location is what. I don't know if I've reached the destination, or even if I can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by athenian200 View Post
    So... what is the underlying thing being measured in MBTI? It's not as obvious as it is with direction (points in space). It's got to do with personality, but it isn't as clear what location is what. I don't know if I've reached the destination, or even if I can.
    Perception of personalities, vs personalities per se? *aelan takes a stab in the black hole*

    Edit: To the posters who say they've difficulty understanding wildcat's posts, I'm not sure if this is any use, but this book "The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-time" reminds me of the thought patterns in wildcat's posts somehow?

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    Quote Originally Posted by niffer View Post
    It's almost like how we get colour, isn't it?

    It's not quite that...they are "spaces" per se, I think. Just void.

    Can you imagine everything being contained in one thing? What would this be?

    (...btw maybe someone might wanna combine my posts heh)
    The Existentialist Question.

    What exists does not contain. What contains does not exist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by athenian200 View Post
    Have you ever heard of the "Big Bang" theory? Essentially, it claims that the entire universe was an infinitely dense singularity containing all matter that somehow expanded out from one point. I don't understand physics well enough to explain it better than that, though.



    So... what is the underlying thing being measured in MBTI? It's not as obvious as it is with direction (points in space). It's got to do with personality, but it isn't as clear what location is what. I don't know if I've reached the destination, or even if I can.
    The universe inflated. An accomodation.

    Before it was there?
    After it was there?
    When it was there?

    Valid questions?

    Valid only if the measure exists outside of what it measures.

    There exists a time span between cause and effect?
    Destination has a preference?

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