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    so like endothermic v exothermic brain activity almost?
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    Quote Originally Posted by whatever View Post

    so in a way, Ni is like Ne hidden in the back of the mind connecting knowlege without the need of it being explicit, much like Si is Se hidden in the back of the mind connecting knowlege without needing to taste at, sniff and stare at everything sort of....
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    Quote Originally Posted by highlander29 View Post
    It's not a technical definition, but this is what I experience:

    - Synthesizing large amounts of disconnected information (big picture, details, past, present, potential future, etc.), looking at things holistically
    - A realization, or "aha" moment such as an idea occurring to you, an understanding, or you know the direction to go (or not to go)
    - There is a theme of changing the context in which things are looked at and viewing them through a different lens
    - You haven't analyzed all the options or scenarios in any coherent way; you just know; there is a level of certainty associated with it - it may be connected to a probability - but in either case, you feel compelled to act upon this understanding
    - A general difficulty in communicating to others or even understanding yourself as to how you got there



    The ideas or direction may not even be fully formed which makes it even harder to articulate yourself. I find that by writing things down, it helps to crystallize the thoughts, or if you talk through them with other trusted colleagues, you can sometimes get them better articulated
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    As a Ni secondary, for me it's about disconnecting from reality in order to understand the common underlying theme among a series of experiences. From this theme you can build a relatively vague abstract model, which may be used for predictions.
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    I would say another example of Ni is this:
    Celebrities Don't Really Die in Threes ... Do They? | PopEater.com

    In this case, "threeness" is the "framework" or "template" that Ni references. The article mentions where the significance of it comes from (remember, Ni deals in revealing significance). Hence, those that trust the function can be able to have a "knowing" that one or two others (not necessarily who, though) will die based on the pattern that has been seen.
    It's just one of those strange patterns in life. While the article says "It's just never true that they die in threes. There are always more or less, but people try to fit it into a three." Two deaths may happen and we add a random, close enough third to it. Or there are four, but we dismiss the third to keep to our 'deaths happen in threes' rule.

    Still, they do seen to come in "rashes" as I call it.
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    so we have Ni to blame for the Bermuda Triangle.....
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    K..once more, I'm having trouble seeing where Ne stops and Ni picks up

    Also..how does it differ from Si? I mean...if it synthesizes information already in your database/brain..isn't that Si?
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    Quote Originally Posted by uumlau View Post
    At the highest level, it's kind of a supercomputer. As long as the computer has a program to solve what you're looking at, you can toss a problem at it, and get a solution. In my case, I'll toss things between Ni and Te and iterate to a real solution to a very complicated problem remarkably quickly. If I used "just Te", I'd get nowhere, and "just Ni" would give me a list of guesses. Ni and Te can cycle back and forth, leapfrogging each other to arrive at the solution. Given a needle in a haystack, Te would methodically start searching through the haystack. Ni would mention that a magnet or an electromagnet might be really useful. Te gets the electromagnet (somehow) and find the needle in a jiff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by whatever View Post
    so like endothermic v exothermic brain activity almost?
    That's about right: Both cases are best dealt with with the judicious application of a supply of ice-cold water, also known as "reality".

    If you meet an Ni dominant, throw a bucket of cold water over the poor dears as soon as they start talking nonsense. It means their brains are overheating from too much thinking, you can do them a real service by stopping the process before they become softboiled in their own heads.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Satine View Post
    K..once more, I'm having trouble seeing where Ne stops and Ni picks up

    Also..how does it differ from Si? I mean...if it synthesizes information already in your database/brain..isn't that Si?
    Si is a more conscious noticing of sensory information than Ni. In Thom Hartman's ADHD a Different Perception he describes those with ADHD as Hunters who have to respond immediately to prevailing conditions based on instinctive sense and Farmers as being very reliant on the overtly observable and predictable cause and effect like Seasons, weather, moon cycle, sunrise/sunset etc.

    I have often thought that his description is very much like the difference between abstraction, with its leaps of association, and linear thought, and similar to the P/J and the N/S dichotomies.
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