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View Poll Results: Which group has more difficulty as it relates to gender norms, life, and society?

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    it's not the easiest thing being an ST woman either- we're apt at manly tasks, which is a threat... plus, the thinking edge always displeases the traditionalists
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    50 years ago NT women. Today, NF men. Womens gender roles are much weaker, but men are still meant to be tough as nails and unemotional.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trinity View Post
    Morgan, the 60/40 figures are from an older study in 1964 by Keirsey and Bates.
    Interesting in itself. Shouldn't something like type, supposed to be innate, be proportionally stable over a period of a few decades?
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    I am going to say Male NF's have it harder.

    Men are not supposed to be emo according to society. Although in relationships women want men to be in touch with their more feminine/emotional side. They can't win sometimes.
    In the workplace, even i don't act F .. I play the cold hearted robot because that is what is expected of me.

    Disclaimer - I think it is cute from what i have been reading today about NF's being emo dumper, crying after sex and all that .. Oh, the stereotyping. Lol
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    so being an NF male makes you socially emo?
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    I'd say that INxx types have it harder than ENxx types, regardless of gender. I've seen too many ENTP women do just fine socially and romantically, but most INFXs struggle a bit, whether male or female. ENFx men often do well socially/romantically also.
    The few INTx women I know have less trouble than I do, but I imagine it can be hard for others.

    Between the two, I picked NF males, but I'm mainly thinking of INFx men.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OrangeAppled View Post
    I'd say that INxx types have it harder than ENxx types, regardless of gender. I've seen too many ENTP women do just fine socially and romantically, but most INFXs struggle a bit, whether male or female. ENFx men often do well socially/romantically also.
    The few INTx women I know have less trouble than I do, but I imagine it can be hard for others.
    Now that's taking it too far. ENTP women have it easier socially and romantically than you as an INFP women? And INTx women may as well? Heh. Step outside your bubble, maybe you specifically have a tough-tough life but pha-leeeese! My empirical evidence conflicts with yours.

    News flash: No one has it easy! Life is not easy. And one persons dramas are not easier than another from their personal perspective because no one has it easy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trinity View Post
    Now that's taking it too far. ENTP women have it easier socially and romantically than you as an INFP women? And INTx women may as well? Heh. Step outside your bubble, maybe you specifically have a tough-tough life but pha-leeeese! My empirical evidence conflicts with yours.

    News flash: No one has it easy! Life is not easy. And one persons dramas are not easier than another from their personal perspective because no one has it easy.
    Precisely. One would have to come up with some objective measure in order for this poll to have any validity or merit.


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    ^ And the two lions decide to pounce together on the simple grass-grazing zebra. It's a bloody vicious takedown; it looks like they are eating the limbs while the animal is still alive. Tonight they will feast, but what will tomorrow bring these precarious adventurers of the animal kingdom? As we witness them closer and closer we hope to find out.

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    When did this thread become "Big Cat Diary"?
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