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View Poll Results: Which group has more difficulty as it relates to gender norms, life, and society?

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    52 59.77%
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    35 40.23%
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    I would probably say male NFs. I have a hard enough time as an NT as is. Honestly, being an NF guy would probably be significantly worse, given a sense of awareness that people don't generally expect, without the analytical mindset to turn an argument on it's ear. Furthermore, my lack of awareness of social convention is kicking in... I'm not entirely sure if this is supposed to be some sort of joke, or a humorous method of masking disdain for traditional depictions of feminism, or caution unto such a movement. Granted, I'm not suggesting misandry at every turn with feminism, but that's the stereotype as presented in society. At the moment, the only thing I have against it is the fact that it's made my English class harder, as though being logical in an artsy class wasn't bad/hard enough.
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    Frankly I think NT women have it worse. I have male NF friends and I'd say that while NF men do have it tough, it's not really any worse than it is for NT men. NT women, on the other hand, stick out like a sore thumb -- one that their SFJ peers are all too eager to squeeze out of existence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elaur View Post
    I assume that female NTs would care less. But maybe that's because I've only known male NFs.
    This. Why should I care what THEY think about me?

    Apathy for the winz.

    Huh... I never quite understood the "bad-boy fanaticism" expressed by (what seems to be) the majority of the female population. For some bizarre reason I never quite understood myself I always gravitate towards sweet, caring males.

    NF males =

    (For the record, Twilight is abominable and Edward Cullen is a creep.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by copperfish17 View Post
    ... I never quite understood the "bad-boy fanaticism" expressed by (what seems to be) the majority of the female population. For some bizarre reason I never quite understood myself I always gravitate towards sweet, caring males.

    NF males =
    And I love NT females. I think that ideal is more of an S thing, but I dunno.

    (For the record, Twilight is abominable and Edward Cullen is a creep.)
    This is 100% true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goodgrief View Post
    I agree women still need to get more rights and such, so they can become equal to men, but just warning you, if any of you start becoming feminists I'll track you down and murder you.
    Just what is your definition of a feminist?

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    Well my definition of feminist is what the name implies. In favour of FEMales. Some people refer to people who want females to have as much rights as males, but I don't think that's what it is. If you even refer to yourself as that, you are being slightly in favour of females as the name is suggestive of feminine supremacy. If you do believe in gender equality, just call yourself equalists or something.

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    Because even a lot of 'feminists' who originally want equality end up being proper feminist because the name sort of gives them the right to say "Give more stuff to women!" even in situations where it is not required.

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    Feminist involves advocating equal rights for women, you appear to have made up your own definition based on what you've seen some people advocate or what you perceive they advocate. In order to believe in equal rights one does not need to advocate for both sides.

    Would you suggest to someone advocating for gay rights, or black rights that they must also represent heterosexuals or Caucasians in order to appear like an "equalist"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ajblaise View Post
    This thread isn't meant to be a pity fest.. but kinda.
    Never look at the gender.

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    Women have it harder then men regardless of type.

    In terms of being an NF male, being an NF has worked to my advantage much more than to my disadvantage. Its really cute, people tend to put on this tough guy shell on the outside (in public) and show me their vulnerable soft side (in private). Even ESTJs and ESTPs. People truly love me. Getting along with INTXs is also very easy for me and talking to them on a deeper level is always exciting.

    At first being hypersensitive was a huge problem for me. Having an open mind allowed me to explore myself to the deepest level and crack the source of my hypersensitivity. This and exploring other aspects of my life has allowed me to achieve inner peace at a very young age.

    Life was hard at some points for me because I was different, but it really wasn't that bad. In fact, being a christian can make me feel even more alone than being an NF will ever be.

    On another note, being an ENFX male or ENTX female is easier than an INFX male or INTX female IMO.

    Because the world is harder for women, in general, my answer will have to be NT women have it harder.

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