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    Quote Originally Posted by PeaceBaby View Post
    ^ are you saying you lack sufficient insight and reflective depth in order to do so? Lack ... a certain cognitive power, perhaps? (ooooooh)

    Consider it a personal challenge ... can you define both without negating either?

    Edit: and please don't over-edit your posts after I read them; I can't adequately respond. Challenge still stands.
    I'm saying there's no point.

    Why would I want to bend something into some formulation that is not in accord with reality?

    No offense, PB, but your point is futile.

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    ^ Well, that's your POV, isn't it? That's just one reality.
    "Remember always that you not only have the right to be an individual, you have an obligation to be one."
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    "When people see some things as beautiful,
    other things become ugly.
    When people see some things as good,
    other things become bad."
    Lao Tzu, Tao Te Ching

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    Furthermore, sometimes viewing one object from the inherently partial perspective of another object is just as, if not more, important than simply trying to view the former through some supposedly neutral, impartial perspective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeaceBaby View Post
    ^ Well, that's your POV, isn't it? That's just one reality.
    No.

    This is reality reality.

    This is the law of the jungle reality, not the chocolate rivers and rainbow sprinkles reality of one Miss PeaceBaby.


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    You know, we aren't in opposition, we are just at right angles to each other. I am asking - can you say what you believe without negating 60-70% of the population that leads with an extroverted function?

    You can't, can you?

    Edit: I am going to start quoting every post if you don't stop editing them after I read them!
    "Remember always that you not only have the right to be an individual, you have an obligation to be one."
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeaceBaby View Post
    You know, we aren't in opposition, we are just at right angles to each other. I am asking - can you say what you believe without negating 60-70% of the population that leads with an extroverted function?

    You can't, can you?
    I already have.

    Their lead function is more fit for making things more easily consumable in a public setting, sharing its object of focus with others, and translating the deeper insights of its corollary Xi function(s) with the world.

    They're also, in my current opinion, quicker at processing their information and better at regularly engaging in broader contexts than their introverted counterparts.

    If we wanted to start a thread called "The extroverted functions are more _________ than their introverted counterparts" we could, and we would likely end up saying things like: able to quickly process information, broad, ready for public consumption, and more.

    Hell, start the thread!

    The ideas have been kicked around a bit in this one, but the focus of this thread, as clearly implied by the title, was meant to be about which qualities the Xi functions have more of than the Xe functions.

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    Well, I was simply disappointed that the best you could come up with was that they (introverted functions) were superior, because that IS the gist of what you've said.

    I was hoping for more ... alas, I leave the thread empty-handed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeaceBaby View Post
    Edit: I am going to start quoting every post if you don't stop editing them after I read them!
    Hey! You (admittedly) do the same thing!


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    Quote Originally Posted by PeaceBaby View Post
    Well, I was simply disappointed that the best you could come up with was that they (introverted functions) were superior, because that IS the gist of what you've said.

    I was hoping for more ... alas, I leave the thread empty-handed.
    Superior only in a certain regard:

    Depth, thoroughness, robustness, etc.

    Introverted functions are superior in another regard:

    Breadth, availability, ease of public consumption, etc.

    Is that good enough? I've been willing to say this the whole time?

    I will not, however, stoop to saying that they are equal (in all regards).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    Hey! You (admittedly) do the same thing!

    I do edit posts, but generally not in this kind of situation, when we are going back and forth rather rapidly.

    I don't want you to say they are the same, do the same things. Your wording is just so black & white. It's this or it's that. I hear you saying they are almost the flip-sides of the same coin. I am saying - are they the same coin? Is that really true or fair? Are they separate coins?
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    "When people see some things as beautiful,
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    When people see some things as good,
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    Lao Tzu, Tao Te Ching

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