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    Intriguing.... Quinlan's Avatar
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    Ni is extraordinarily useful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quinlan View Post
    Ni is extraordinarily useful.
    But Fi isn't. Just remember that.
    Often a star was waiting for you to notice it. A wave rolled toward you out of the distant past, or as you walked under an open window, a violin yielded itself to your hearing. All this was mission. But could you accomplish it? (Rilke)

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    If I had to pick the most debilitating function, it'd be Ti.



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    Quote Originally Posted by OrangeAppled View Post
    Do we really need another Fi-hate thread? :rolli:


    I'd say Ni - that's why Ni-doms are so "rare". Nature has deemed them largely useless.
    Ni, like Ne, is vital to human progress. The problem is that too many Ni-doms in this world would end up destroying the Earth and each other.
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    Define "useful".
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    Useful personally? I would think the mechanism of our brain would put our dominant to inferior functions according to what the brain would think is useful to us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OrangeAppled View Post
    I'd say Ni - that's why Ni-doms are so "rare". Nature has deemed them largely useless.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aleksei View Post
    Ni, like Ne, is vital to human progress. The problem is that too many Ni-doms in this world would end up destroying the Earth and each other.
    Perhaps the rarity occurs because those functions are not the most stabilizing contributors on a smaller scale. For an analogy, it's like how extremes -- geniuses, the severely handicapped, savants, etc. --- are uncommon in nature and society. Too many of them can overthrow the population's balance, but Nature keeps a few around for the sake of diversity, survival, growth and progress.

    Quote Originally Posted by Quinlan View Post
    I reckon the extraverted functions are the most useful.
    Yeah, most people take this view, and I don't blame them. They seem to place a higher emphasis on the end results (to what is tangible right before them), without paying any attention to how the product was delivered. The extraverted functions are responsible for piecing together or connecting all the little parts [i.e -- introverted, personalized systems], but without those individual pieces, there would be nothing to work with.

    I suppose it's better to pair 'useful' with a specific time frame. The extraverted functions are obviously the short-reacting components that immediately delivers the material because of their flexibility, while the introverted functions are long-reacting, but goes into more depth and holds a greater shelf-life. The latter can appear useless because more resources have to be put in to sustain them, though when a certain period is over, they can contribute back stronger resources (the ones they've been building for years) to society.
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    You're all over thinking this.

    Most useless>Most useful:

    Old Times:

    Ni--Look at Socrates
    Te-Good for a ruler, or a farmer/rancher, but not that useful overall
    Fe--Etiquette and mores made little difference
    Ne--Not as important
    Fi--Important for the arts, which were highly valued
    Si--Important for memory, which was utilized often
    Ti--Making things work; always important
    Se--Observing environment because there were no instruments to take data in otherwise

    New Times:

    Fi--
    Si--Tradition is outdated
    Se-S is outdated, N is evolving
    Ni--?Seeing a solution that isn't readily observable
    Fe--Good for getting along, but T and N are more valued now
    Te--Organization and accumulation of data important in a fast changing world
    Ne--All possibilities are necessary for bringing about the best solution
    Ti--Still needed to make things work/get something done/find a solution
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    Most useful - Te, the only function which cares about whether things are useful or not.

    But that was not the meaning of the original question.

    I don't agree with Aphro about the relative worth of Ne vs Si. True, lots of companies pay lip-service to "out of the box thinking" and "finding out original solutions" but in practice "tried and true" often gets its way.
    Personally, I think a good mix between the two is the best, either within a single person or within a group. Originality should not be an end goal. If the tried and true method works, just go ahead... unless you think a new method could be better and testing the thing wouldn't hinder your progress too much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lethe View Post
    Perhaps the rarity occurs because those functions are not the most stabilizing contributors on a smaller scale. For an analogy, it's like how extremes -- geniuses, the severely handicapped, savants, etc. --- are uncommon in nature and society. Too many of them can overthrow the population's balance, but Nature keeps a few around for the sake of diversity, survival, growth and progress.
    Mentally handicapped people and savants are genetic anomalies. Geniuses are a higher evolution of humanity, compared to normal people (As a species we're still barely a step above apes, tough as it is to acknowledge -- There are gorillas with a higher IQ than, for example, the Indian average).
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