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SFP Fi

wolfy

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I am interested how Se affects Fi. I put it here because I want input from anyone. I am interested in how Se affects Fi in theory. In how SFP see Fi in themselves.
 

Andy

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Se is a prefferance for learning from direct experience, so SFPs tend to form opinions based more upon their own life experiences then theoretical considerations (unlike the NFPs!). Because of this preferance, SFPs will tend to get invovled in lots of diffferent things, which builds up their basis for making decisions. When experience is laking, SFPS often remain neutral on the subject matter. Their Ni is probably chipping in there - peoples opinions are just ideas, at least until the SFP has tride it themselves.
 

TopherRed

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Strangely, they "get wise" a lot sooner than most INFPs.
 

The Outsider

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Strangely, they "get wise" a lot sooner than most INFPs.

Se drives them towards actually experiencing things. Whereas an INFP might just end up an encyclopedia of useless knowledge and theories.
It balances out in time.
 

Jeffster

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I am interested how Se affects Fi. I put it here because I want input from anyone. I am interested in how Se affects Fi in theory. In how SFP see Fi in themselves.

How do I find the answer to that? How do I know what is "Fi" in myself?
 

Little Linguist

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Se drives them towards actually experiencing things. Whereas an INFP might just end up an encyclopedia of useless knowledge and theories.
It balances out in time.

HAHAHAHHA! Oh, man. I have often thought, "If I could use my imagination for something practical, I'd be a rich woman." Alas....I'm one of the morons who is an encyclopedia of (mostly) worthless knowledge and theories that makes me excited as hell, but hardly anyone else. GAH!
 

wolfy

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How do I find the answer to that? How do I know what is "Fi" in myself?

Read about it then...

Bounce a ball up and down. Throw it against a wall.
Lie down quietly in the corner for a long time.
Bounce a ball up and down. Throw it against a wall.
Lie down quietly in the corner for a long time.
Bounce a ball up and down. Throw it against a wall.
Repeat...

Something will pop into your head eventually.
 

gromit

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Read about it then...

Bounce a ball up and down. Throw it against a wall.
Lie down quietly in the corner for a long time.
Bounce a ball up and down. Throw it against a wall.
Lie down quietly in the corner for a long time.
Bounce a ball up and down. Throw it against a wall.
Repeat...

Something will pop into your head eventually.

:D
 

Little Linguist

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YAY I found sarcasm again! I'm getting good at this! :D
 

BlackCat

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Se is a prefferance for learning from direct experience, so SFPs tend to form opinions based more upon their own life experiences then theoretical considerations (unlike the NFPs!). Because of this preferance, SFPs will tend to get invovled in lots of diffferent things, which builds up their basis for making decisions. When experience is laking, SFPS often remain neutral on the subject matter. Their Ni is probably chipping in there - peoples opinions are just ideas, at least until the SFP has tride it themselves.

+1 to your post.

Also as said in the other most recent Fi thread, Se is about the current context. So we would be in tune with how things affect us in the current context... and we wouldn't really jump to conclusions like Ne does in the NFPs. So we'd only really react a certain way unless we had a real reason to.

I personally don't express offense or anything emotional unless there is some kind of concrete proof that someone had that intent. I tend to react to on the surface emotions over the deeper ones. When that happens I tend to just stay cool and wait for more info to see what the intent was.

Also... my values are constantly being molded from my experiences in life. That's how I describe Fi and Se working together. And adding to that, I tend to express my values and inner feelings through action (or inaction). Not really through my thoughts.
 

Andy

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+1 to your post.

Also as said in the other most recent Fi thread, Se is about the current context. So we would be in tune with how things affect us in the current context... and we wouldn't really jump to conclusions like Ne does in the NFPs. So we'd only really react a certain way unless we had a real reason to.

I personally don't express offense or anything emotional unless there is some kind of concrete proof that someone had that intent. I tend to react to on the surface emotions over the deeper ones. When that happens I tend to just stay cool and wait for more info to see what the intent was.

Also... my values are constantly being molded from my experiences in life. That's how I describe Fi and Se working together. And adding to that, I tend to express my values and inner feelings through action (or inaction). Not really through my thoughts.


Thank you. It was actually through reading some of your posts that I managed to improve my understanding of Se.
 

Sidewinder

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My Fi means that my values are very important to me, but it tends to express itself in what I do. So I might go donate to a charity I believe in, for example. When I feel some strong emotion, my actions might be coloured by that emotion. For example, I had a bad day at work the other day, and I found myself expressing my frustration by revving the car up, and playing the car stereo loudly.

I don't usually want to discuss my emotions too much ... sometimes I will, but only if I feel it's going to be productive to do so. I tend to only want to talk about my values or feelings if I'm uncertain about them and want to get some objective feedback. When I truly believe something, I don't feel the need to shout about it. Sometimes I have a hard time expressing why I believe what I do, or why I like or dislike something ... it just feels right, that's all.

I don't know if that's what you were looking for. Hope it was helpful/interesting. :)
 

Thalassa

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My eSFP ex used to talk about being "true to self" "being real" and complained about how some people have "no soul." He was very tough, but would cry over IRL stuff that happens in the world (really truly bad stuff, like people raping and killing children) and had an incredibly strong sense of justice, which unfortunately he took it upon himself to mete out, sometimes by violence.

He could also be very clingy and affectionate, but just as quickly horribly selfish. Unapologetically selfish. Very loyal to family, though.

He's not the healthiest SFP in the world, but that's his Fi in a nut shell.
 

Jeffster

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Read about it then...

Bounce a ball up and down. Throw it against a wall.
Lie down quietly in the corner for a long time.
Bounce a ball up and down. Throw it against a wall.
Lie down quietly in the corner for a long time.
Bounce a ball up and down. Throw it against a wall.
Repeat...

Something will pop into your head eventually.

So the something that pops into my head will be Fi?
 

wolfy

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So the something that pops into my head will be Fi?

Yes. You do it the same way you figure out if you are...

abstract versus concrete
cooperative versus pragmatic
directive versus informative
expressive versus attentive

Just reflect on your thinking in this case. Not how you think about yourself relative to your environment.
 

ayoitsStepho

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My Fi means that my values are very important to me, but it tends to express itself in what I do. So I might go donate to a charity I believe in, for example. When I feel some strong emotion, my actions might be coloured by that emotion. For example, I had a bad day at work the other day, and I found myself expressing my frustration by revving the car up, and playing the car stereo loudly.

I don't usually want to discuss my emotions too much ... sometimes I will, but only if I feel it's going to be productive to do so. I tend to only want to talk about my values or feelings if I'm uncertain about them and want to get some objective feedback. When I truly believe something, I don't feel the need to shout about it. Sometimes I have a hard time expressing why I believe what I do, or why I like or dislike something ... it just feels right, that's all.

I don't know if that's what you were looking for. Hope it was helpful/interesting. :)

+1 That's totally how it works for me too. :D
 

Moiety

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This is being one of the most enlightening threads in the history of Typ0C for me. Wanted to read some of these thoughts for a long time now :)
 

Venom

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Yes. You do it the same way you figure out if you are...

abstract versus concrete
cooperative versus pragmatic
directive versus informative
expressive versus attentive

Just reflect on your thinking in this case. Not how you think about yourself relative to your environment.

could you explain or link me to somewhere, with that last dichotomy? how does "attentive" contrast with expressive in this context?
 

simulatedworld

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How do I find the answer to that? How do I know what is "Fi" in myself?

It's that little voice in your head that tells you what's fundamentally right and wrong, and to stick up for your right to express yourself in your own way.

Each function represents an attitude, a perspective, a certain way of viewing the relationship between yourself and the outside world.
 
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