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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Poriferan View Post
    Well there are two variables involves, which is why I understood that EPs were considered less judgemental than IPs. It's two variables with J/P being the dominant one (think of genetic alleles ).
    Yeah, but it was the dominant "allele" (i.e., having a Je dominant function) that I was referring to as being the cause of Jness...

    All good discussion, though. Been very thought-provoking...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    Yeah, but open-mindedness might be a J's form of closure (i.e., myself) while close-mindedness might be a P's form of "openness" (echh... the worst -- this is what I hate about some Ps... they think they're open-minded, when, in fact, they're close-minded as shit).
    Interesting take. I would think that someone who thinks they are open but are actually closed-minded might be deluded. Out of curiosity, how is closed-mindedness a form of openness?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    Eh, I'm not too sure about this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pitseleh View Post
    Interesting take. I would think that someone who thinks they are open but are actually closed-minded might be deluded. Out of curiosity, how is closed-mindedness a form of openness?
    In fact, it's not; it is, as you said, deluded "open-mindedness".

    In the perception of the subject, they are open-minded; however, in truth, they are close-minded.

    I'm thinking of the close-minded ExFP who thinks she's open-minded because she believes in... hmm, let's say, gay marriage, for example... and she cannot imagine how anybody else could not have a different opinion about gay marriage, and, furthermore, that anyone who does have a different opinion must be close-minded.

    In this case, the ExFP might think she's open-minded, but, in reality, an open-minded person would be open to the idea that people could have differing opinions about gay marriage.

    Thus, her "open-mindedness" is actually close-mindedness.

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    YOU ASSFACE, WHERE ARE YOU!!!

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    'Cause you can't handle me...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    In fact, it's not; it is, as you said, deluded "open-mindedness".

    In the perception of the subject, they are open-minded; however, in truth, they are close-minded.

    I'm thinking of the close-minded ExFP who thinks she's open-minded because she believes in... hmm, let's say, gay marriage, for example... and she cannot imagine how anybody else could not have a different opinion about gay marriage, and, furthermore, that anyone who does have a different opinion must be close-minded.

    In this case, the ExFP might think she's open-minded, but, in reality, an open-minded person would be open to the idea that people could have differing opinions about gay marriage.

    Thus, her "open-mindedness" is actually close-mindedness.


    I wonder who you're talking about, here.

    I'm closed minded regarding a couple of subjects, why?

    Because what I believe in, (regarding these several subjects) happens to be categorically right.

    It's not even about me, it's about the TRUTH.

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    Hey Z, your lovely lady is waiting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SillySapienne View Post


    I wonder who you're talking about, here.
    Actually, I used ExFP cause I was referring to both you AND my ex...



    Quote Originally Posted by SillySapienne View Post
    I'm closed minded regarding a couple of subjects, why?

    Because what I believe in, (regarding these several subjects) happens to be categorically right.

    It's not even about me, it's about the TRUTH.

    Well, to be completely accurate, a part of open-mindedness is to actually believe that, in certain cases, it might be correct and necessary to be close-minded.

    And so, in certain circumstances, your point is absolutely true.

    Unfortunately, with regard to gay marriage: it is not.

    However, with regards to civil unions: yes, yes it is.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    Hey Z, your lovely lady is waiting.
    That's why it's called delayed gratification...

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    You're dead to me.

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