# Thread: Pi = Judger, Pe = Perceiver; why?

1. Originally Posted by Zarathustra
But certain functions are probably more prone to be better at certain skills, no?

I believe both claims to be true...
I agree that ability to see certain perspectives (i.e., "use" certain functions) does tend toward greater ability in certain related skills, yes, but I don't like the assertion that performing x skill always necessitates "using" y function.

I really like poker examples, and this is a good situation for one: there are a lot of different approaches to winning at poker. One person's fundamentals might be different from another's and both might still be winning players. (I actually read a study where they compared the statistics regarding play tendencies between a bunch of the most successful high stakes players, and they were all taking extremely different approaches with totally different play style stats.) Different perspectives can arrive at the same goal via different paths...you don't have to use any particular function to be good at poker; you just have to be able to harness your preferred functions in a way that's conducive to winning.

2. I gotta bounce, guys.

And, Z, conserve some of that, um... energy for me.

3. Originally Posted by SillySapienne
I gotta bounce, guys.
She's gunna go masturbate...

4. Originally Posted by SillySapienne

And, Z, conserve some of that, um... energy for me.
Will do.

I'm out, too.

Nite Sim and lurkers.

5. Originally Posted by simulatedworld
I agree that ability to see certain perspectives (i.e., "use" certain functions) does tend toward greater ability in certain related skills, yes, but I don't like the assertion that performing x skill always necessitates "using" y function.
Yeah, that's a good way of putting it.

6. Originally Posted by Zarathustra

Yeah. Seriously, Jag. You confuse me in this regard.

I mean, I find NTP thinking ridiculous a lot of the time, but you really seem to hate it.
Nope - not NTP. Anyone who manifests Ti in a restrictive, narrow-minded, pedantic manner.
That includes a couple INFJs who make complete asses out of themselves.

Take INTP Jennifer for example. She doesn't lean on Ti, and she knows it.
She's one of my favorite people here.

One of my other favorite people here is a self-proclaimed ENTP. Female.
Her brain rocks. (Don't waste your time looking in my friend list. She's not there. )

I am not biased toward NTJs, or even males.
By and large, I think the women blow the guys out the door in this forum.
Their insight is stellar, by comparison.

7. But manifesting Te in a restrictive, narrow-minded, pedantic manner is great, huh?

It's interesting how ardently you fight against "ignorant generalizations" when it comes to your type, but how easily you'll generalize about others:

Originally Posted by Jaguar
Ti will do anything to preserve a theory, even if it's wrong.
You'll badmouth Ne and Ti in clearly generalized terms all day, but the second anyone tries to discuss NTJ weaknesses, you pounce on him for "ignorant generalizing."

Originally Posted by Jaguar
Look at it this way, Sim, as long as you keep thinking all people in group A are the same,
you'll never have to develop your own personal potential. How convenient for you.
It's a good thing all Ti people are similar enough to be generalized about.

As long as we're careful to exclude people we don't like from the vaunted ENTJ group, of course:

Originally Posted by Jaguar
And you think hairdressers who read Winnie the Pooh are ENTJs?
I looked all over every source I could find about ENTJs and their functions, but I couldn't find anything about hairdressers or Winnie the Pooh having anything whatsoever to do with it. Of course, since it's your type we're talking about, I'm sure nonsensical generalizations to keep out people you think are beneath you are perfectly justified.

Of course, you deleted that particular wall post anyway, just like you delete any that might make you look inconsistent.

Guess that's more of this "integrity" thing you're all about, right?

8. This is the thread that never ends, it just goes on and on my friends, somebody started posting it not knowing what it was and they continued posting in it forever just because....

This is the thread that never ends....

9. Originally Posted by simulatedworld
But manifesting Te in a restrictive, narrow-minded, pedantic manner is great, huh?
Functions are all bullshit, remember?

http://www.typologycentral.com/forum...tml#post611163

10. Originally Posted by Jaguar
Functions are all bullshit, remember?

http://www.typologycentral.com/forum...tml#post611163
At least I didn't delete that post when I realized it might make me look inconsistent.

At least I had the balls to publicly admit I was wrong and not make any effort to hide past mistakes.

I'm afraid I can't say the same for you, Mr. Subject Change.

Hey class, let's do a little scavenger hunt--

Find one instance of Jaguar admitting fault for anything, on the entire forum, anywhere, ever.

Next time you delete past posts that would make your mistakes evident, save the hypocritical lecture on "integrity", mmkay?

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