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    Quote Originally Posted by Qre:us View Post
    ENTP - can be the devil's advocate, but never the devil. They'd never put themselves in the direct line of fire; let the devil take the fall.

    ENTP personality types, however, are most often seen as the tricksters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Qre:us View Post
    ENTP - can be the devil's advocate, but never the devil. They'd never put themselves in the direct line of fire; let the devil take the fall.

    ENTP personality types, however, are most often seen as the tricksters.
    Most portrayals of the devil as a character are either shallow or humorous, so the ENTP malevolent trickster designation would work. I agree, however, that it doesn't work with the classical devil, who is entirely focused on avenging his broken pride against God by perverting and immiserating His favorite creation. In this framework, the ENTP Magnificent Bastard persona would be an illusion along the lines of a bully's self-esteem, an artificial sense of satisfaction based on making others lower than himself.

    I would characterize the classical devil as a maladjusted INFJ, but I've frankly forgotten even most of the basics of MBTI theory, so I may be operating on faulty associations; basically, introverted intuition for utter self-absorption, F for being dominated by feelings of pride and anger, and J for ultimately being results-oriented.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lowtech redneck View Post
    Most portrayals of the devil as a character are either shallow or humorous, so the ENTP malevolent trickster designation would work. I agree, however, that it doesn't work with the classical devil, who is entirely focused on avenging his broken pride against God by perverting and immiserating His favorite creation. In this framework, the ENTP Magnificent Bastard persona would be an illusion along the lines of a bully's self-esteem, an artificial sense of satisfaction based on making others lower than himself.

    I would characterize the classical devil as a maladjusted INFJ, but I've frankly forgotten even most of the basics of MBTI theory, so I may be operating on faulty associations; basically, introverted intuition for utter self-absorption, F for being dominated by feelings of pride and anger, and J for ultimately being results-oriented.
    Well, there's Dante, where he's with all the treacherous folks. This part of Hell is actually very cold...the devil is stuck in a lake of ice, and can''t even move. He has three heads and a monstrous appearance, but is ultimately impotent. It doesn't look like he actually rules anything. He just gnaws on other souls, but really, that's all he can do.
    [Trump's] rhetoric is not an abuse of power. In the same way that it's also not against the law to do a backflip off of the roof of your house onto your concrete driveway. It's just mind-numbingly stupid and, to say the least, counterproductive. - Bush did 9-11


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