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    Default The Sensor's Void

    While visiting here and reading some posts I happened to come up with this interesting idea using my replace N/S with the Big Five's Openness and its 6 sub-traits.

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    1. Imagination - high scorers tend to engage in fantasy to create a more interesting world. I would say these types tend to also like stuff like fantasy novels and comic books.

    2. Aesthetics - high scorers appreciate beauty in art and nature and may also like poetry.

    3. Emotionality - high scorers tend to have good access to and awareness of their feelings.

    4. Adventurousness - high scorers are eager to try new activities.

    5. Intellect - high scorers enjoy playing with ideas, are open to new and unusual ideas, and enjoying debating intellectual issues.

    6. Psychological Liberalism - high scorers are ready to challenge authority, convention, and traditional values.

    I'm high in some sub-traits and low in others, but I still consider myself very much an N because of being high in intellect and psychological liberalism. I'm realizing that low levels of all of the 6 things above sort of result in nothing.

    1. A low level of imagination results in typical, realistic thinking.

    2. A low level of aesthetics results in not thinking or caring about art and poetry.

    3. Low levels of emotionality leads to not consider your emotions or not being open to them.

    4. Low levels of adventurousness lead to not having an interest in new activities.

    5. A lack of intelligence leads to a lack of ideas in someone's head.

    6. A lack of psychological liberalism leads to just passively accepting the way things are or accepting things as they're given to you.

    When you're low in all of these things that leaves you with little more going on in your mind than the experience of the environment or the recalling of previous experiences.

    Now, starting with low on everything as a sort of blank slate, consider what it would be like to add a high level of just one of those such as aesthetics. That would create someone whose mind is actively engaged with creating and enjoying things such as art, poetry, nature, and music. Now, let's crank another knob such as the psychological liberalism one, and you will have a person who sometimes enjoys the arts and nature and at other times enjoys questioning established things.

    Anyway, my point is that it's possible that with a really high level of just one of these sub-traits, someone could end up functioning like an N all the time in that one arena. Perhaps you could have someone who is obsessed with art and poetry and devotes a lot of time to it yet is not interested in other things referred to above.

    What I am proposing is that pure S types have a large void that can be found to be filled in by N types by the various things listed above. It doesn't matter how much of each one is filling the void, as long as something is in there filling it. It's also interesting to consider that if all the knobs were high, then the person would either be really busy or would have a lot of competing interests in his head.

    I have little interest in fantasy stuff and as far as aesthetics go, I have a moderate interest in music as art but no interest in art, poetry,or nature. I am moderate on emotionality and adventurousness. I have a lot of the last two on the list as I mentioned before. This results in often thinking about ideas and questioning established things. Sometimes I consider my emotions, I like to get into new things or explore, and I consider stuff pertaining to music theory and music making. The overall result is a person whose mind is very much filled with N-type activity although I'm lacking in some areas.

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    not another fucking thread calling sensors inferior in some way and stating that intuitives are better :steam:

    the only one of those I scored even moderatly on was emotionality- all the others on openness I scored through the roof

    Anyone who DOESN'T score high on those traits should probably turn in their STP card and go become something squishy and obsessed with sitting at the computer desk all day constructing arguments as to why they are better than someone else...

    BTW... Little Linguist owes you an ass kicking for saying that sensors are unimaginitive now... if you need proof check out the videos thread... you're DOOMED
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    Who brought up the inferiority issue? I don't recall bringing it up or even saying anything derogatory. I'm not clueless as to why someone might consider it derogatory, but I had no intentions of putting anyone down when I wrote it.

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    the terms "lack of intelligence" and "little going on in their mind" don't exactly come across as complementary
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    Intuitives will always talk about sensors.
    Thinkers will always talk about feelers.

    People talk about what they are not, because others are their mirror.

    Such is the way of the universe.

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    Actually, low openness and low IQ have been correlated. I'm sorry, but that's how it is.

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    Yes, I am with Whatever on this.

    If there is any void iNtuitives can fill in the lives of Sensors, then I assure you equivalent voids in the lives of iNtuitives can be filled by Sensors.

    Sensors use intuition, and iNtuitives use sensing, just in different ways. Get over the N/S divide, it is far more shallow than you believe.

    Give me a break.
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    I would conclude that most people here who do label themselves as S are probably at least a moderate on the intellect dimension. If that wasn't the case, then they probably wouldn't be here on a site devoted to personality theory (intellectual idea type stuff).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Halla74 View Post
    Yes, I am with Whatever on this.

    If there is any void iNtuitives can fill in the lives of Sensors, then I assure you equivalent voids in the lives of iNtuitives can be filled by Sensors.

    Sensors use intuition, and iNtuitives use sensing, just in different ways. Get over the N/S divide, it is far more shallow than you believe.

    Give me a break.
    Please. :rolli:
    Meh.
    Sounds pornographic to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FFF View Post
    Actually, low openness and low IQ have been correlated. I'm sorry, but that's how it is.
    yes, and I'm saying that saying that low openness is a sensor trait is absolute bullshit

    seriously man... do you think that the people who do really adventurous things are INTPs or something? Or that INTJs are the epitome of emotional openness? And how could someone who uses Sensing NOT appreciate beauty?

    And imagination is more than rainbows and unicorns... how about quick fixes done in manners not thought of before or the creation of a work of art (for instance, you might as well paint a unicorn as try to imagine what god looks like )...

    you're SADLY mistaken on your imagined correlation there- I'd suggest you read up on Se and Si instead of reading the descriptions of the types... it's easier to understand than to read someone's biased opinion
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