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    Quote Originally Posted by wildcat View Post
    Ni does not oversight detais.
    It sees them in the context.
    Very much agreed.

    Wildcat, I'm not familiar with you, but I've seen two INTJ-related posts from you this morning.

    Are you an INTJ or an INTP?

    I ask because usually you don't see INTPs holding positive opinions about INTJs (not sure how sarcastic your other post was, but the irony didn't seem altogether negative), and because usually INTPs seem to have a rather poor understanding of Ni.

    As an INTP, do you feel you understand Ni via regular usage, do you feel you understand it through observing it in others and/or studying it, or, am I wrong altogether, and you don't really feel that you understand it all that well to begin with?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    Se= What is.
    Si= What is, evoking what was.

    Extraverted Sensing - Notices the rich detail in the whole forest - the trees, their color and texture, their sounds, their smells, the pattern of light and dark...
    And Se makes certain intuitive conclusions are drawn based on this general picture and based on what is in front of us. Its like basic facts or rules that are very high level that have to be present for this thing in front of us to be what it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by poki View Post
    And Se makes certain intuitive conclusions are drawn based on this general picture and based on what is in front of us. Its like basic facts or rules that are very high level that have to be present for this thing in front of us to be what it is.
    I picture Se and Ni, together, on a seesaw.
    When out of balance, what do you hear?

    THUD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    Very much agreed.

    Wildcat, I'm not familiar with you, but I've seen two INTJ-related posts from you this morning.

    Are you an INTJ or an INTP?

    I ask because usually you don't see INTPs holding positive opinions about INTJs (not sure how sarcastic your other post was, but the irony didn't seem altogether negative), and because usually INTPs seem to have a rather poor understanding of Ni.

    As an INTP, do you feel you understand Ni via regular usage, do you feel you understand it through observing it in others and/or studying it, or, am I wrong altogether, and you don't really feel that you understand it all that well to begin with?
    I am INTP.
    I took the cognitive processes' test. I had Ni as high as Ti and Ne, which was not surprising.
    My other post was not sarcastic.
    I feel I understand Ni through regular usage and in observing it in others.
    You are not wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalach View Post
    Now, taking as read Jung's stuff about the introverted attitude being wrongly dismissed if spoken of as the merely subjective, the subjective being as real as the objective... it rather looks as if introverted sensing has the same pretension as introverted intuition to being the collective unconscious, the a priori. The description of what, ultimately, is. Not what was, or what used to be, but what eternally... is.
    I like this a lot
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    Quote Originally Posted by wildcat View Post
    I am INTP.
    I took the cognitive processes' test. I had Ni as high as Ti and Ne, which was not surprising.
    My other post was not sarcastic.
    I feel I understand Ni through regular usage and in observing it in others.
    You are not wrong.
    Very interesting.

    I did the same thing, and I come out with very high Ti and Ne...

    I'm actually in the process of writing a thread about it. I'll pm you...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    I picture Se and Ni, together, on a seesaw.
    When out of balance, what do you hear?

    THUD.
    Se pulls off the gloves and Ni throws on some armour and says hit me Definite THUD followed by screams from Se while Ni rolls on floor laughing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    Very interesting.

    I did the same thing, and I come out with very high Ti and Ne...

    I'm actually in the process of writing a thread about it. I'll pm you...
    I thought so, too.

    What about your Fe and Si? According to the C.P. test.
    Statistically, there should be an even out in the lay-out.

    Individual tests may well go against the current.
    It is only to be expected.

    Statistics may mislead. It usually does.
    There is nothing wrong in statistics per se.
    Statistics is an adjuncture.
    It is not a part of the dichotomy (= the process of the study).
    Therefore it is relevant. And misused.


    I wish you good luck. I look forward to see your thread.

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