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    Can people really have Xs in their type? I know people will put an X in their type if they aren't sure what the letter is yet, but is it actually possible for someone to be perfectly balanced? It seems to me like every person would have a preference for each letter, but i don't really know. :confused:
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    The problem is that the four dichotomies don't really help illustrate the differences between the types very well - every type can intuit and sense, every type can think and feel, and so people who quite naturally can't decide feel stumped and just put an "X" there.

    How the types really differ is in how they prefer certain ways of thinking over other ways of thinking in different situations - this is illustrated in the functions and function order.
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    Ok, that makes a lot of sense. thanks
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    I would disagree and say that there are X types, but I've done it on other threads, the current one being "Venture to Type the Writing of a Self-Proclaimed IXFX?", so I'm not going to do it here.

    And Tigerlilly113, at first when I read your signature I interpreted it as "When life gives you lemons, make apple juice. Then sit back and watch the world wonder how you did it.
    Of course it is happening inside your head, but why on earth should that mean that it is not real?"

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    The MBTI sources are not entirely consistent either. By some sources I'm an INFJ and by others I am INFP. I see the legitimacy in tracing it back to Jung, but his approach is quite different from MBTI. Once you start comparing MBTI sources whether it is Kiersey, Similarminds, Typelogic, etc. then the descriptions do not maintain consistency. When there is enough diversity within a category, you can reach a point where the differences between categories are not significantly greater than what can occur within a category.
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    Quote Originally Posted by toonia View Post
    The MBTI sources are not entirely consistent either. By some sources I'm an INFJ and by others I am INFP. I see the legitimacy in tracing it back to Jung, but his approach is quite different from MBTI. Once you start comparing MBTI sources whether it is Kiersey, Similarminds, Typelogic, etc. then the descriptions do not maintain consistency. When there is enough diversity within a category, you can reach a point where the differences between categories are not significantly greater than what can occur within a category.
    That's a good point and context or even stress can result in different traits presenting more strongly too, appearing to invalidate the ascription of a particular type, I also think that people can have preferences for particular traits, strong enough to give the wrong answers in a quiz, which then gives phony results.

    I've been unsure about perhaps X-ing out some of the traits I'm unsure about in my own results, although most of the books that I've read would seem to suggest that I'm consistently NTJ if not I or E strongly, the only thing is that it doesnt seem to tally with the results that I've got from other typologies apart from MBTI, like enneagram and socionics (though I think the socionics result corresponds more to what my work is).

    There's another prsonality matrix that I cant seem to get proper titles for which includes vigilance, conscientiousness, adventuriousness, idiosyncracity and stuff like that but it further complicates things because I've got vastly contrasting results depending on when I've completed this.

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    Its as Vagrant says it. If seen as the theory of Myers and Briggs there is clearly no way you can be balanced eventhough you might be able to use a function more than others with the same type dont mean that you are an X. Balance is good I agree but the idea you have difficulty deciding what you use more, dont mean you are balanced, it just means you've not figured out who you are. Like me, Im not sure if Im INTP or INTJ, if I read the descriptions that Myers made. Since that is the "extreme" type which I have difficulty completely recognizing in myself, I do see a stronger preference to the INTP description, even those on the internet. I dont know if any of this made sense

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    No, theoretically speaking, you cannot *be* an X. There are those who are unsure because of the various reasons people have already mentioned, and there are those who are simply trying to make the point that they are borderline between two opposing function preferences. Kind of gives the illusion of being in between two types.
    Personally, I know my oddly high use of Te confused me for quite a while, but I'm still an ENFJ...with an over-developed Te.

    (Which, weirdly enough, I read something last night that mentioned that ENFJs who were repressed tend to over-develop their Te, which I thought was interesting. But off topic)

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackandthebeast View Post
    And Tigerlilly113, at first when I read your signature I interpreted it as "When life gives you lemons, make apple juice. Then sit back and watch the world wonder how you did it.
    Of course it is happening inside your head, but why on earth should that mean that it is not real?"
    hmmm.. that actually makes it a lot more interesting. I could separate them more so people don't get confused, but I kinda like how it could mean different things.

    Quote Originally Posted by slowriot View Post
    Its as Vagrant says it. If seen as the theory of Myers and Briggs there is clearly no way you can be balanced even though you might be able to use a function more than others with the same type dont mean that you are an X. Balance is good I agree but the idea you have difficulty deciding what you use more, dont mean you are balanced, it just means you've not figured out who you are.
    Quote Originally Posted by BlueFlame View Post
    No, theoretically speaking, you cannot *be* an X. There are those who are unsure because of the various reasons people have already mentioned, and there are those who are simply trying to make the point that they are borderline between two opposing function preferences.
    This makes more sense to me because it's always been hard for me to believe that someone can be perfectly balanced.
    I know I wouldn't be satisfied having an X in my type.

    I guess I do kind of agree with what Toonia said, though.
    When life gives you lemons, make apple juice. Then sit back and watch the world wonder how you did it.

    "Of course it is happening inside your head, but why on earth should that mean that it is not real?" -Dumbledore

    And by the way, everything in life is writable about if you have the outgoing guts to do it, and the imagination to improvise.
    The worst enemy to creativity is self-doubt.
    -Sylvia Plath

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    I will not be happy to put an "x" on my profile, I want to figure out my correct type... very frustrating.

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