How Do You Unlearn MBTI?

[Ginkgo]

You see, when you first learn about MBTI, it appears as a basic principle. People are of different personalities. So MBTI is a descriptor for these different people, just like an atlas is a descriptor for different countries. Afterward, you move into the functional theories, which elucidate the reasons why people are different. But even so, they are incomplete because they do not concern "nature vs. nurture", and can be dissected down into meaninglessness; just like all matter (like two seemingly different objects such as a pie and a table) can be dissected from the whole into the smaller bits. Afterwards, you realize that people are composed of the same stuff just as the universe is composed of the same stuff as itself. So why are we differentiating when there is nothing to differ? The only distinctions that need to be made are those that are individual and observable, as the elements are individual and observable. So when my friend says they don't enjoy rap music, I make sure I don't play it when I'm driving them in my car. Get it? But even now, I want to attribute this preference of distinction to my supposed type.

I really wish I could simply "unlearn" it. Unfortunately, I just keep shifting back and forth from one oculus to the other, seeing utility in both viewpoints by reverse mental processing. How do you unlearn it? Damn, I'm over-thinking this.

I think everyone on this site should smoke something fierce until they forget about MBTI.

 

[ThatsWhatHeSaid]

Don't unlearn it, just learn better stuff. Try Buddhist psychology and meditation, or Transactional Analysis, or maybe Cognitive Therapy. Changes the way you see shit.

MBTI is a classification game more than anything*, IMO. It doesn't really give you insight into people, it just helps you categorize them. If you want to get people, you have to study motivation. All those disciplines involve core motivations, especially the first. When you start studying that, it puts MBTI in perspective, but also gives you great insight into people and what's really happening inside them, imho.



*When abused, people convert it into a source of personal identity, which goes back to motivation. to me, the way people misuse MBTI is more interesting than the actual tool itself.

 

[Ginkgo]

Don't unlearn it, just learn better stuff. Try Buddhist psychology and meditation, or Transactional Analysis, or maybe Cognitive Therapy. Changes the way you see shit.

MBTI is a classification game more than anything*, IMO. It doesn't really give you insight into people, it just helps you categorize them. If you want to get people, you have to study motivation. All those disciplines involve core motivations, especially the first. When you start studying that, it puts MBTI in perspective, but also gives you great insight into people and what's really happening inside them, imho.



*When abused, people convert it into a source of personal identity.

Good post. So it's just a matter of not pondering too long, but obsessing over something new. Just like a fad. MBTI is a fad for one's brain. Alas, times change, and we change with them. Some people move over to Socionics. Others delve into something unanticipated. Maybe I should do something creative. There's art. I need a teacher...

Thank you, kind sir! You have shoved me into action! Leave the rest to me.

 

[ThatsWhatHeSaid]

You're very welcome, crazy lady.

*throws cat at you*

 

[Ginkgo]

You're very welcome, crazy lady.

*throws cat at you*

I has a penis. The cat is scratching my penis. CAT SADOMASOCHISM! AHHHH!!

 

[ThatsWhatHeSaid]

I has a penis. The cat is scratching my penis. CAT SADOMASOCHISM! AHHHH!!

Oops! Sorry. I just saw "NF" and thought female. Also, your post reminded me of my NF friends (female) who thinks herself into these nihilistic, scientific states where everything becomes meaningless and mechanical. I think it's due to too much thinking in the wrong direction. In my personal experience, reality is best apprehended when you're not trying so hard to decode it.

Cheers, over-circumsized man!

 

[Ginkgo]

Oops! Sorry. I just saw "NF" and thought female. Also, your post reminded me of my NF friends (female) who thinks herself into these nihilistic, scientific states where everything becomes meaningless and mechanical. I think it's due to too much thinking in the wrong direction. In my personal experience, reality is best apprehended when you're not trying so hard to decode it.

Cheers, over-circumsized man!

See what I mean? Haha! Ok, may your chinchilla-furs be plentiful in all your days.

 

[Synapse]

Yep, with tweezers, plucking chest hair is good for the soul. I say, that should get you some way from unlearning this perfidious MBTI. Amidst the redness and the stockpile of hair you can cash in for dollars at a hairstylist, goldmine.

 

[VagrantFarce]

You unlearn it by experiencing something that contradicts it, making you re-examine what you first thought you knew. Easy.

 

[garbage]

Just take it less seriously. Think about the useful aspects of the framework that you can take away, such as the very fact that people are different, exactly how they might be different (perceiving/judging is probably the big one here), and how communication styles vary. Think through them when they come up, but no sooner. Congratulations; now you can deal with people more effectively--which is pretty much the point of MBTI in the first place--without all of the useless fluff.

Oops! Sorry. I just saw "NF" and thought female.

 

[velocity]

learn the box well enough? then gently step back out of it and use it when desired?

 

[Lexicon]

You see, when you first learn about MBTI, it appears as a basic principle. People are of different personalities. So MBTI is a descriptor for these different people, just like an atlas is a descriptor for different countries. Afterward, you move into the functional theories, which elucidate the reasons why people are different. But even so, they are incomplete because they do not concern "nature vs. nurture", and can be dissected down into meaninglessness; just like all matter (like two seemingly different objects such as a pie and a table) can be dissected from the whole into the smaller bits. Afterwards, you realize that people are composed of the same stuff just as the universe is composed of the same stuff as itself. So why are we differentiating when there is nothing to differ? The only distinctions that need to be made are those that are individual and observable, as the elements are individual and observable. So when my friend says they don't enjoy rap music, I make sure I don't play it when I'm driving them in my car. Get it? But even now, I want to attribute this preference of distinction to my supposed type.

I really wish I could simply "unlearn" it. Unfortunately, I just keep shifting back and forth from one oculus to the other, seeing utility in both viewpoints by reverse mental processing. How do you unlearn it? Damn, I'm over-thinking this.

I think everyone on this site should smoke something fierce until they forget about MBTI.

The trick to keeping MBTI as a useful navigational tool [and not a rigid means of defining ourselves and others], is, like other abstract concepts, to never view it in terms of concrete, black-&-white-absolutes, I think. Because, truly, we're all the same, interconnected in this multidimensional plane we know as reality. Concepts like MBTI just assist in looking at the various dimesions through different scopes.. but it's all the same thing in the end, no matter how you see it.
And sheesh, that carries over to so many other aspects of life, as well. Fairly simple, yet so often overlooked.


..and.. Potato.. please never smoke anything. Space-time cannot handle the high Ne of such an extraordinarily peculiar tuber, and the very idea evokes a primal fear for the existence of all things.

 

[disregard]

You unlearn it by experiencing something that contradicts it, making you re-examine what you first thought you knew. Easy.

What he said.

 

[Laurie]

When you figure out how to unlearn all the other things that differentiate people let me know.

You made a big deal about being male instead of female, why does it even matter?

 

[Ginkgo]

When you figure out how to unlearn all the other things that differentiate people let me know.

You made a big deal about being male instead of female, why does it even matter?

I was merely clarifying. My male-ness matters because it is the truth; and as the truth, it ought to be preserved. Except for when it's a lie - then it's just funny. I can be anything you want me to be for 50 bucks, baby.

 

[BlackCat]

Learn socionics!

 

[Ginkgo]

Learn socionics!

Yeah, the village medicine man told me to do that too.

 

[bobby]

You unlearn it by experiencing something that contradicts it, making you re-examine what you first thought you knew. Easy.

I think it can be fairly easy to overlook contradiction. Sorta like in this picture:

When you look only at the top or only at the bottom, it looks all right, but if you'd have a look at the image as a whole you'd notice something's wrong. It takes a certain amount of brain power to be able to hold the whole picture in your head at the same time, and I think we should be careful not to overestimate our abilities in that regard. At least I don't feel I have a good enough grasp to be able to say one way or the other, and because of that I remain cautious. Perhaps others are more capable than me and can be more confident.

 

[Jaguar]

Who is really controlling your mind?

 

[Laurie]

Are you posting in an MBTI forum asking how to forget MBTI?