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    There's a Step II now.

    Step I is the 16 types--or your preferences among the dichotomies.

    Step II is the 16 types plus facets. There are five facets to each dichotomy preference. This is part of showing how individuals within the same type can differ.


    So... five? There's five? Holy crap. It never ends.
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    There's been a step II for a while now.
    If a deaf INFP falls in the forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew_Z View Post
    There's been a step II for a while now.
    Step II gives some much needed subcategorization to the four basic binary-pair selections... since we all know how much variance exists in people within the same MBTI type.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    Step II gives some much needed subcategorization to the four basic binary-pair selections... since we all know how much variance exists in people within the same MBTI type.
    Needed for whom, investors that were late to jump on board and want to see greater ROIs?

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    I discovered this about a month ago. Here's how it came out:







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    Looks interesting, Highlander. Do you have a link testing for the five subkategories (I suppose you did a test)?

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    This is the link. I searched around and couldn't find any that were free.

    Step II Myers-Briggs Type Indicator Online, MBTI, Online Group and Team Testing

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    That is interesting, high.

    So, right out of the box, one has to wonder, where did these facets come from? Is there some model-theoretic justification for it? I don't quite see how.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaunward
    Needed for whom, investors that were late to jump on board and want to see greater ROIs?
    Oooo, inherent skepticism -- don't just accept things at face value. I'm proud of you, keep up the good work!

    As far as needed, from a theory POV? Of course it is... it's pretty apparent that there's a wide range of behavior within each of the 16 types and some people do not identify with the basic type, so the Step 1 scoring/descriptions are of inadequate granularity.

    Quote Originally Posted by highlander29 View Post
    I discovered this about a month ago. Here's how it came out:
    I'm guessing you paid the full $90 for the test?
    (I'm not aware of free online scoring yet.)

    Was it worth it? it seems kinda stiff to me, although the expanded categorizations seem interesting. The price is one reason why I have not done it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kalach View Post
    That is interesting, high. So, right out of the box, one has to wonder, where did these facets come from? Is there some model-theoretic justification for it? I don't quite see how.
    Haven't looked at it a lot recently.
    I'm actually going to guess the traits were categorized by some sort of theoretical brainstorming factor break-down rather than empirically derived tested clusters... but that's just a guess on my part.

    It doesn't mean that the subcategories are not useful on their own, but they might not accurately map the breadth of a particular function (e.g., T, or S).
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    My thoughts on this have been that people have enough trouble with Step I.
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