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    Emperor/Dictator kyuuei's Avatar
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    I think society does enough gender discriminating on it's own without us needing to drag it in and plaster it all over the walls here too.

    For every "Females always do this" there's one female to say "Eff no, I don't do that!" and there's also a male to say "I do that.. does that make me female?"

    In my eyes, I think people as a whole contribute a lot more to gender than needs to be. One of the reasons I love this place so much is how honestly neutral it is. I don't get slammed into a category based on how I look. "you were born female.. you MUST like XYZ and you DEFINITELY do abc, and I'll be damned if I'm going to allow you to lmnop." That bullshit drives me insane.
    Kantgirl: Just say "I'm feminine and I'll punch anyone who says otherwise!"
    Halla74: Think your way through the world. Feel your way through life.

    Cimarron: maybe Prpl will be your girl-bud
    prplchknz: i don't like it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quinlan View Post
    If someone was considering how best to communicate and understand me I think I would prefer to be regarded as "ISFP" rather than the blanket "MAN".
    Yes, exactly. It is interesting that I feel more "limited" if being labeled "man" than when labeled "INFP". Shouldn't it be another way around, since the man label means I am like 50% of the people, but INFP means I am something like 4%?

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    ^ I think the freedom you're feeling is the freedom that you told everyone what type you are.. instead of feeling like everyone's telling you what you should be.
    Kantgirl: Just say "I'm feminine and I'll punch anyone who says otherwise!"
    Halla74: Think your way through the world. Feel your way through life.

    Cimarron: maybe Prpl will be your girl-bud
    prplchknz: i don't like it

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    Geez I really hate that book.
    ENTj 7-3-8 sx/sp

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    Fifth letter ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    Geez I really hate that book.
    +1

    There's an entire website devoted to disliking that book.

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    M/F is concrete while mbti is abstract/thought. These influence each other, but does not have to be more then loosely connected in some way, although both are powerful identity and ego generators.

    To get a more accurate model one could implement sexuality. Build different types, function preferences etc for this side. Then merge this with the 'personality' preferences.

    So when you have included both night and day you can finally have a more complete mental model.

    Mbti is imo adequate for describing influence for sex differences as it is for what it describes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    (Study the cases where male babies had surgery and were raised as women due to circumcision incidents within a few months after birth, and you'll see some interesting outcomes...
    Ouch!!!!! Are you kidding me??? This happens???? Never heard of such a thing. "Sounds extremely horrible" doesn't do justice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heart View Post
    +1 to hating that book.

    I bought it and couldn't make my way through it (and I almost always finish books). Seemed to me to mostly be "Men are ISTx, and Women are ESFx." I found both the style and information presented incredibly grating.

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    ^ This is exactly how I feel when I hear about what "women" are like. I sit there thinking "I'm nothing like this"

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