Is that really Fe? Or is it punk ass Ti combined with Ne? The cattiest ENTP stuff I have seen tends to be much more subtle. They insult you and you never even realized it. Or the entp revenge... you are screwed.
Perhaps more destructive is the entp Fe kindness honestly. Sometimes entps will refrain from being very direct as Fe seems to prompt them to not create discord. However then the conversation/discussion doesnt go anywhere. No biggie here, but in a project or work enviornment, to not speak up when there is an issue can be catastrophic.
I am going to have vote Ti for that one!
I actually like young punk ass ENTPs as long as I am not emo close to them. Their straightforward approach is very pointed and even seemingly arrogant, but it is fun to argue with.
To me it seems Fe, but it also seems like my perception causes what I see to be like half a wavelength off from Ne. So I would buy that its possible that it is Ne. I tend to have my own internal theory that I go by and use what I see to modify it to fit and compare it to MBTI. My perception seems to be way different than what an NeSi sees. Its almost like you see the result where as I wish I could explain what I see. Everyone says Se is about senses, but part of my senses works on here also so its not just about vision. It plays into the way words are organized and the flow...I dont know, its confusing to try and explain. The fact that others get the same feeling as I read helps me backup whats real. I focus more on whats real, the result is more of a validation of what I see.
Hopefully someone else can explain, INTPs are usually good at this, filling in the blanks.
Take what I say with a grain of salt, because that's all it is compared to the ocean of complexity when it comes to actions and real life.
Was fun for me, I love to play with ENTPs when they start playing with Fi users eh, what comes around goes around
Touche. I responded to your post, btw...any counter-move??
Originally Posted by Lurker
SW, your response left me with only one impression: "Learn to read!!!" Honestly, I paid no attention to your rebuttal because of your emotional style. The substantive part didn't even register mentally.
I've done the same thing tons, though. That is, ruin a message with Fe.
This is because I lost interest in hearing your opinion given your obvious lack of interest in getting my position straight before trying to debunk it.
If I cared about your response I'd have asked for it more nicely. I don't so I didn't.
If you could be anything you want, I bet you'd be disappointed--am I right?
I make a conscious decision to use an abrasive style when it's apparent (as in this case) that the other poster hasn't made any effort to read my thoughts/consider what I'm saying before mouthing off. If I respond to you in this manner it's because I don't think you've bothered to listen/think about it and I have no interest in attempting useful discourse with you.
You can find other posts where I use a neutral or otherwise inoffensive tone, in cases where I think the other poster is listening and giving my point legitimate consideration. If you show up and immediately spout off three totally inaccurate descriptions of my position, it's evident that you didn't make any effort to understand me, so I'm not going to make any to understand you.
Ok. Thanks for clarifying that. However, I have read the thread. Maybe that will reveal that I'm an ignorant idiot, but perhaps that also means that some people respond in a manner that seems like "they didn't make any effort to understand you", but in fact maybe they just found some of your stances unclear or contradictory. Then you reply to them in an abrasive manner (because you're always perfectly logical and consistent and brilliant and if they don't get you they're ignorants who don't deserve your time anyway, I assume), and the discussion gets nowhere.
The thing I found strange was that in your OP, you seemed to attack only two people from another thread, aka "only paranoid Fi-doms". However, in later posts you accused other INFPs of being paranoid in the sense they always react defensively even if no ill intent was implied. That was already quite a huge generalization, because it's probably not the opinions themselves that trigger the reaction but the aggressive style, which you didn't take into consideration back then. Also, later you admitted you find many Fi positions irritating and unreasonable and you like to provoke INFPs and see their reactions. From this, it wasn't entirely clear anymore if you mean only the paranoid INFPs in your OP or "all unreasonable INFPs". That made other INFPs wonder where you take the right to judge who is reasonable and who isn't.
I admit my response might have been a little off-topic, but it wasn't a result of not reading the thread. It was more of a result of my thoughts wandering off into realms I've been lately thinking about and found related at the moment. Call it NF diffused thinking if you want.
Originally Posted by simulatedworld
It's extraordinary to me that people don't think I know that. You don't think I'm consciously using abrasive tone? It's my way of telling you that I don't care enough about your opinion to ask for clarification in a polite manner. This is what I do for people who are too lazy to bother informing themselves before mouthing off.
I think this is extremely arrogant on its own right. You don't care about my opinion, so you have to call me names and show me as clearly as possible what an idiot you think I am? There are sure other methods how to show your superiority to other people, more subtle and more effective. But maybe you just prefer to show off and make an impact to truly enlightening ignorant masses - in that case you've chosen the right method, true.
Her head hung down
Gazed at earth, finally keen,
As the rabbit at the stoat,
Till the earth was sky,
Sky that was green,
And brown clouds passed
Like chestnut leaves along the ground.