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    Quote Originally Posted by onemoretime View Post
    Games that help describe both functions:

    Ne - TriBond - take three seemingly-different concepts, determine the common essential characteristic of the three

    Ni - Scribblish - take a non-sensical picture, and determine how it developed through multiple iterations of interpretation
    This seems to be basically the opposite of how others describe them?
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    I get the sense that Ne oriented people tend to spread ideas in hopes of revolutionizing what's already known. I mean, on the surface, it looks like they're just building on concepts and flying on the hinges of every tangent that's even remotely related to prior contexts. However, the motivation, at least in my mind, is to bring about death and destruction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ginkgo View Post
    I get the sense that Ne oriented people tend to spread ideas in hopes of revolutionizing what's already known. I mean, on the surface, it looks like they're just building on concepts and flying on the hinges of every tangent that's even remotely related to prior contexts. However, the motivation, at least in my mind, is to bring about death and destruction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the state i am in View Post
    this is how i feel. most of my friends are nps,
    most of my friends are nips too
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    Quote Originally Posted by Resonance View Post
    what

    most of my friends are nips too
    Not really.

    But maybe secretly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ginkgo View Post
    However, the motivation, at least in my mind, is to bring about death and destruction.
    That's a very strange thing to say. A lot of creativity is partly vengeful, intrigued with vilifying things as they are... but I know I'm personally too much of a pussy to really want to kill anything.

    But then, that that even makes sense-- that shying from wanting to bring death could be at all like cowardice, is only further infuriating to me... so maybe you have something there. But now I sound like a crazy person.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Resonance View Post
    This seems to be basically the opposite of how others describe them?
    That's because most of the time, people don't pay attention to direction. The first is Ne, because it's concerned with the essential connection "out there." You're not looking for what's the true meaning of those three words within, but what's the connection that already exists out there. The second is Ni, because it involves the hidden truth that's been obscured by four levels of interpretation, and shifting one's perspective of the final image to work toward the thematic core that unites the original phrase with the ultimate drawing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Resonance View Post
    This seems to be basically the opposite of how others describe them?
    Not quite, how it is being describe sounds confusing. Somehow, it sounds like the opposite approach to describing Ni and Ne... which also works

    Scribblish:
    Non-sensical picture: Ne, some "random" picture
    How it developed through multiple iterations of interpretation: Ni, the missing links from point A, B, C , D. it goes something like A<B<C<D<"random" picture
    Ne>Ni

    This one was a bit easier to understand why onemoretime said it was Ni, to me I thought of it as a line of thought, it heads from 1 spot to another 1 spot. How I see it is that it isn't branching out like a tree, thus the Ni. Someone can suppose that it is Ne because the random picture could be seen as 1 idea while the iterations could be seen as 4(thus branching out.)

    Real life example? Let's go back in history. You can call that "chain of events." Events meaning many, chain being connected.

    Tribond: (This one is a little harder for me to describe)
    Seemingly different concepts: Ni, since we're being vaguely told there is a link. We are to come up with ideas as to what the link is.
    Common essential characteristic: Ne, finding the one thing that tied them together to form the Ni bond.
    Ni>Ne

    Real life example? Liquid, Gas, Solid. (bad example... I know...)
    How one person may see it is that these three have a word to describe them but now they are trying to find what that word is (Ne)

    But how another person interprets this scenario could be Ni (which I did beforehand until I decided why onemoretime says it is Ne.) The way I thought was, these are three items. I need to find how these three items are connected (Ni.)

    It is how you approach the concept that decides whether it is Ni or Ne.

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    Am I running on a tangent or am I not? You decide

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    Ne = Supernova.
    • Both create elements heavier than oxygen.
    • Both expand outward in a significant lightyearesque fashion from the starting point.
    • Both are luminous.



    Ni = Black Hole

    • Both are in tune to the gravity of a situation.
    • Both gather in information.
    • Both arrive to a single, magical point.


    I haz won ze thread!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saturned View Post
    Ne = Supernova.
    • Both create elements heavier than oxygen.
    • Both expand outward in a significant lightyearesque fashion from the starting point.
    • Both are luminous.



    Ni = Black Hole

    • Both are in tune to the gravity of a situation.
    • Both gather in information.
    • Both arrive to a single, magical point.


    I haz won ze thread!!
    Good job!

    Beware though: Should the supernova result in black hole formation, it will implode this analogy and change your type!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAVO View Post
    Good job!

    Beware though: Should the supernova result in black hole formation, it will implode this analogy and change your type!
    My kind of Ne starts with stars that are capped at 8x the mass of our Sun.

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