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    Default Which type looks up to which?

    ... Is there a pattern?

    I've seen more than one INTP looking up to the ENTPs.
    I've seen a few ENTPs (of which I'm one myself, but not the only one) looking up to ESTJs.

    Two questions:
    1) Is this a real pattern or not?
    2) If it's real, are there more of this sort of generalities or not?
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    Hmmm. In my case I must say that the people I know that I look up to, I knew them well before I knew their MBTI type, and that their MBTI type had nothing to do with my reverence of them.

    That being said, my Dad is an ESTJ, and I think the world of him.
    My friend Andrew is an ENTJ, and he is also an inspirational person in my life.
    My friend Jack is an ESFP and I have learned tons from him.

    So, maybe in my little ESTP world, I am imprinted by those that have some similarity to me, ala ExTx or ESxx?
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    INTP looking up to ENTP, I'd definitely agree with. ENTP looking up to NJ is something I've noticed as well (Ne is intrigued by Ni). ENTP looking up to any SJs? Eh, not so much, at least not in my experience. Why do you look up to ESTJs? I can see maybe envying them for their efficiency, but NPs don't tend to value efficiency (at least not the immature ones like myself).

    SJs looking up to SPs I think occurs as well. SJs probably envy gut decisions and spontaneity (especially STJs), as it's something that's not really inherent in SJ values. SJs probably also look up to being perceived as "cool" (especially SFJs), as Fe causes them to care how they are perceived by society.

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    I don't look up to types. Nor people for that matter, except for some rare cases.
    Not sure if this has to do anything with my type though. I don't know many INTJs IRL, and those who I do are usually frustrated losers.

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    Typologically, I've noticed a pattern of me admiring IxFJs and ESxPs.

    I admire IxFJs because they seem more patient, long-suffering, accepting, than me, sensitive to the implications interpersonal relationships instead of just shrugging them off, and people you can really lean on in times of need and they don't disappear on you.

    ISFJs because of how stalwart and dedicated they are. I also think they put up with a lot of crap (not that that's good!), but weather through things so long that they often times are the last ones standing. I find that ISFJs often have a insight and homespun wisdom about them that attracts people. I also very much appreciate their willingness to tend to a person's physical care, when your body is in shambles you can't focus on much else and they seem to be the type most able to understand that relationship.

    The INFJs I know are pretty cut the crap people, but still very nurturing and soothing. I find them to be especially good relational problem-solvers, like they'll think about something you said to them and come back later and say "I was thinking about what you said and..." and out pops this really workable, wonderful solution! And as usual, I find their insight into situations and other people usually correct even if it takes months for thing to play themselves out.

    ESxPs because they just do the damn thing! I also find them very attuned to reality and factually bent which I find aids in decision-making. One of our case managers is an older ESFP who's very deeply into her Te and she's very good and presenting the realities of the situation, making them real in not some distant and abstract way and pushing towards practical action. Her focus on the present is immensely helpful. There's often a disdain for the "details" on MBTI forums, but the details are very pertinent to the trajectory of a situation and when they're set in front of you, their relevancy and impact on the future is made unrelentingly clear, you respect people who can juggle these things and have a good grasp of the intricacies.

    ETA: I forgot to add how gotdamn HAWT ESxPs are! Forgive my oversight.
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    I look up to some ISTPs and ESFPs usually. The reason isn't the common SP letters; ISTPs for their ability to combine practical and theorethical understanding of most subjects that interest them. ESFPs for their sociability and open-mindedness.
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    I look up to INTJs for their natural mathematical abilities. those fuckers have it SO easy even when compared to other NTs..... its ridiculous!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nozflubber View Post
    I look up to INTJs for their natural mathematical abilities. those fuckers have it SO easy even when compared to other NTs..... its ridiculous!
    Really? I thought INTPs were also stereotypically good at math as well. Math is all about some deductive reasoning. Maybe NTJs are really good at more applied mathematics like calculus/physics?

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    ESFJs-I admire their warmth, their concern for others, their positive energy, and their ability to get things done with a smile-even when they don't like what they're doing. I also admire how they can pull a group together and get everyone involved in reaching a stated goal.
    SPs-I like how they're often so present and aware of what's right in front of them. The ones I know are usually content with things as they are, and the extroverted ones rarely hesitate to seize a good opportunity. I admire the "live and let live" attitude, and how they just take things as they come.

    I don't know too many confirmed Ns in person.
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    I think I have looked up to some INFJ, but I am not completely sure whether I really type him right, because he had a complex character I would say. He looks on first sight like an INTJ, but the more I got to know him the more I saw the F side in him.

    Well, he was a teacher of me (now retired), so there was always a certain distance. But if I admire a person, then probably him. He is 100% authentic (even though he does not always say the truth), very intelligent and remembers facts like a sponge, says always what he thinks, very strict yet still has a sense for humour and some hidden warmthness (I think outside of his teacher-life he is much warmer). I think if you ask him for help he would be the most trustworthy person ever.

    Then there is a xNFP (I would rather say INFP, but relative outgoing one then; but maybe only a little bit shy ENFP) which has many similarities to me (well, I am INFP too ^^), but also some differences which I would wish for myself sometimes too.

    But well, there are also many other good persons in the world, but those are the two examples which came into my mind first.

    I am not sure there is really ONE type for each type which is looked up, but I would make a vague theory that people will generally look up to people which combine faccetts of themselves plus some additional traits which they would value high but lack a bit of.

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