User Tag List

Page 23 of 27 FirstFirst ... 132122232425 ... LastLast
Results 221 to 230 of 263

Thread: BULLYING: Personality type with a tendency to bully others? Type of the victims?

  1. #221
    Video Deadly Array Alaska's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    MBTI
    ISFP
    Enneagram
    4w5 sx/sp
    Socionics
    ESI Fi
    Posts
    2,779

    Default

    I know now how to be assertive, but I had to consciously grow my own fight instinct over a long and difficult time because I sure as hell wasn't born with one. Comparatively, still greatly lacking in aggression compared to many people. This grosses me out about myself, so I never give up testing, pushing and trying to expand my capacity for survival in a world that has teeth. In a way, I guess, I'm my own aggressor, and that's about it.

    My inner critic/driver is a badly drawn Se caricature that growls down the back of my neck, but in the end, it just stands for the affirmation of life and skin.
    4w5 6w7 1w2 sx/sp ISFP

    RLOAX (don't do it)
    Melancholic Hufflepuff
    A lonely island where only what is permitted to move moves, becomes an ideal. Jung

    Kiss Kiss [johari] Bang Bang [nohari]

  2. #222
    if not, winter Array magpie's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    MBTI
    ISFP
    Enneagram
    614 sx/so
    Socionics
    ESI Fi
    Posts
    2,821

    Default

    I bullied this girl in fourth grade and she was nice to me in return. I still feel incredibly guilty but guilt is a useless feeling because it doesn't make you a better person. I'm glad that I feel guilty though because at least I can sort of make up for it by feeling bad in return. But then I feel guilty that my guilt is being alleviated by feeling guilty because I probably don't deserve that. It's very complicated.

  3. #223
    Permabanned Array
    Join Date
    May 2014
    MBTI
    XXXX
    Enneagram
    ?
    Socionics
    ?
    Posts
    159

    Default

    All I know is most bullies are F not T. The sheer act of it is almost always an unhealthy expression of strong feelings within the bullies themselves. "Bullying" based on logic and reason would evolve into something else entirely, like tormenting people who owe you money into paying up, doing violence to someone as payback for something they did of equal maliciousness, etc. That's called business savvy or just plain justice.

  4. #224
    if not, winter Array magpie's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    MBTI
    ISFP
    Enneagram
    614 sx/so
    Socionics
    ESI Fi
    Posts
    2,821

    Default

    I can only speak for myself but I suppose I do agree with you, Romello. What I was doing as a kid was more because I was desperately uncomfortable socially but I know I have inappropriate bursts of emotion (including happiness, although I guess that's not relevant for this conversation) that are undoubtedly harmful for other people when I'm around them. So yeah.

  5. #225
    Permabanned Array
    Join Date
    May 2014
    MBTI
    XXXX
    Enneagram
    ?
    Socionics
    ?
    Posts
    159

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by hel View Post
    I can only speak for myself but I suppose I do agree with you, Romello. What I was doing as a kid was more because I was desperately uncomfortable socially but I know I have inappropriate bursts of emotion (including happiness, although I guess that's not relevant for this conversation) that are undoubtedly harmful for other people when I'm around them. So yeah.
    Yeah man true that. Although ironically the only two people who ever bullied me were ESTP and INTP. Although the ESTP has since chilled out a lot so I can blame his bullying on pre teen hormones and the INTP aggressor was a weak little nerd anyway so it was kind of a fun mutual bullying dynamic between us.

  6. #226
    Vaguely Precise Array Seymour's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    MBTI
    INFP
    Enneagram
    5w4 sx
    Posts
    1,540

    Default

    So, there's not much, study-wise, on the MBTI and bullying. There are some studies on the Big Five and bullying, though:

    One study covered the various roles:
    Teacher reports indicated Friendliness and Emotional Instability as the strongest distinguishing personality factors among the participant roles, followed by Conscientiousness and Energy. Higher levels of Emotional Instability and lower levels of Friendliness typified both Pro-bullies and Victims, relative to their peers. Victims were also low in Conscientiousness. Defenders exhibited high levels of Friendliness, whereas Introversion and Independence characterized Outsiders. These results suggest that personality traits might contribute to children's typical behaviour in bullying situations.
    Another study on the Big Five and workplace bullying victims
    One cluster, which comprised 64% of the victim sample, do not differ from non-victims as far as personality is concerned. Hence, the results indicate that there is no such thing as a general victim personality profile. However, a small cluster of victims tended to be less extrovert, less agreeable, less conscientious, and less open to experience but more emotional unstable than victims in the major cluster and the control group. Further, both clusters of victims scored higher than non-victims on emotional instability, indicating that personality should not be neglected as being a factor in understanding the bullying phenomenon.
    Yet another study:
    Mediational analyses indicated that children who score low on Conscientiousness and high on Neuroticism are more likely to experience negative affect during peer conflict, such as feeling angrier, blaming the bully more, and forgiving less, and that these reactions are related to higher levels of victimization. For bullies, relations among Agreeableness, Conscientiousness, and bullying appear to be mediated by lesser feelings of guilt and gains in physiological arousal while telling a bullying narrative. Advantages of a mediational model of peer victimization processes and implications for interventions are discussed.
    So, in Big Five terms, looks like both victims and bullies tend to be low openness/independence, low conscientiousness, low agreeableness/friendliness, and high neuroticism. In MBTI terms (as a correlation of a correlation, take with a many grains of salt) being a bully or a victim would tend to correlate S, T & P plus emotional volatility.

    (By the way, I think there is a tendency on the forums to conflate Feeling with emotional reactivity... those are two separate qualities. Emotional turbulence/reactivity is represented in the Big Five as neuroticism, but the MBTI doesn't have any representation of the same concept.)

  7. #227
    Permabanned Array
    Join Date
    May 2014
    MBTI
    XXXX
    Enneagram
    ?
    Socionics
    ?
    Posts
    159

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Seymour View Post
    So, there's not much, study-wise, on the MBTI and bullying. There are some studies on the Big Five and bullying, though:

    One study covered the various roles:


    Another study on the Big Five and workplace bullying victims


    Yet another study:


    So, in Big Five terms, looks like both victims and bullies tend to be low openness/independence, low conscientiousness, low agreeableness/friendliness, and high neuroticism. In MBTI terms (as a correlation of a correlation, take with a many grains of salt) being a bully or a victim would tend to correlate S, T & P plus emotional volatility.

    (By the way, I think there is a tendency on the forums to conflate Feeling with emotional reactivity... those are two separate qualities. Emotional turbulence/reactivity is represented in the Big Five as neuroticism, but the MBTI doesn't have any representation of the same concept.)
    That's all probably true. The thing is is that I get so fed up with how much subtle hate sensing, especially EST types get on typology central due to the majority of misinformed so called introverted intuitives who assume they're loud and simple minded and what not for god knows why. They are weirdly demonized and dismissed. I jump at every opportunity I can to defend them because of this.

  8. #228
    Permabanned Array
    Join Date
    May 2014
    MBTI
    N/A
    Socionics
    EIE Ni
    Posts
    3,388

    Default

    I stand by what I said on ET types being the most likely to be bullies.

    The reason for this is that they are simply the most imposing, dominant types, and usually a lot more physically strong as kids devalop at different rates. It seemed to vary by race more than anything but there is also quite a bit of intra-racial variation in T levels. This matters a lot at school as it is a strongly social environment.

    Being part of a group - any group - is highly protective.

  9. #229
    Video Deadly Array Alaska's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    MBTI
    ISFP
    Enneagram
    4w5 sx/sp
    Socionics
    ESI Fi
    Posts
    2,779

    Default

    If one's personality type (which we overwhelmingly assume is fixed) says anything about how socially aggressive or vulnerable they'll be, what does that say about any given individual's capacity to change their position? Are some people actually less or more vulnerable to force than others in a way that is as fixed as our types? Is that unsettling and taking this thread too literally, or just life?
    4w5 6w7 1w2 sx/sp ISFP

    RLOAX (don't do it)
    Melancholic Hufflepuff
    A lonely island where only what is permitted to move moves, becomes an ideal. Jung

    Kiss Kiss [johari] Bang Bang [nohari]

  10. #230
    Permabanned Array
    Join Date
    May 2014
    MBTI
    N/A
    Socionics
    EIE Ni
    Posts
    3,388

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Nixie View Post
    If one's personality type (which we overwhelmingly assume is fixed) says anything about how socially aggressive or vulnerable they'll be, what does that say about any given individual's capacity to change their position? Are some people actually less or more vulnerable to force than others in a way that is as fixed as our types? Is that unsettling and taking this thread too literally, or just life?
    Yes, yes and no, though none of these questions have absolute answers.

    Your personality will affect how motivated you are to change your position, because everybody is not equally ambitious. Depending on how likely you are to take insults to heart, you will be more or less vulnerable.

    This is not unsettling. It is just the way we are. But it does not mean that you can do nothing to improve your position; only that there is a limit to what can be achieved.

Page 23 of 27 FirstFirst ... 132122232425 ... LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. Heredity of Personality Type: the type of your mother, father and yours?
    By curiousel in forum Myers-Briggs and Jungian Cognitive Functions
    Replies: 167
    Last Post: 12-21-2016, 01:58 PM
  2. Are You Personality Type A or B?
    By NewEra in forum Online Personality Tests
    Replies: 150
    Last Post: 03-20-2015, 08:33 AM
  3. Do animals have a Personality Type? mbti for animals, personality type of beasts
    By curiousel in forum Myers-Briggs and Jungian Cognitive Functions
    Replies: 30
    Last Post: 10-09-2013, 08:27 AM
  4. What personality type do you think he has?
    By Tish211 in forum What's my Type?
    Replies: 15
    Last Post: 01-05-2011, 06:32 AM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •