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    Quote Originally Posted by saslou View Post
    Interesting .. I would of thought i am a hardcore S, although i am being told differently by someone i am rather close to. OK. I do think we (I) can get stuck in a particular mindset and become narrow minded but due to the people we interact with and our surroundings, we become more open minded over time.
    I try to find meaning and symbolism in all that i do until my head hurts and i realise i have been spending far to much time thinking thus need to start doing.

    I think we only become better in ourselves when we open up to other possibilities and actually learn from our mistakes in life.
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    I get really stuck on the dichotomy itself. I look for the functions specifically- Ni, Ne, Si, Se. That's all S/N really is.
    () 9w8-3w4-7w6 tritype.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sleepy View Post
    There is a difference between functions and function theory. Sosionics got it more right then mbti imo. But have not trashed the functions themselves. Flak Jacks theory on this board is also quiet good. Only he mixed up Ni, Ne and lots of stuff in application. But the idea is a nice step in the right direction.

    You did not use Ne. Failed to keep an open mind. And made conclusions based on past experiences and knowledge. Textbook Si imo. Not even a trace of Ne. Ne and Ti you would have have picked my idea apart objectively instead of subjectively as you did. Even if I'm isfp I appreciate sound objective analyses when discussing external stuff.
    This is nonsensical enough that I'm convinced you have no idea what you're talking about and am no longer interested in discussing this with you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by simulatedworld View Post
    Yup, once you understand the two different forms of S/N/T/F and realize that E, P, I and J aren't actually functions but just attitudes for the functions, things will make way more sense.
    So S/N/T/F are verbs, while E/I/P/J are adjectives?
    4w5, Fi>Ne>Ti>Si>Ni>Fe>Te>Se, sp > so > sx

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    Quote Originally Posted by William K View Post
    So S/N/T/F are verbs, while E/I/P/J are adjectives?
    That's a simple yet interesting way of looking at it. Nice.
    () 9w8-3w4-7w6 tritype.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tinkerbell View Post
    F types have great difficulty dumping relationships... more emotionally sensitive (not in a freak out way - but sensitive towards other people feelings). T types can be emotional, sometimes very so, but they dont' make decisions emotionally, they will make difficult choices....

    A fair few F type managers I know can't fire people... (on one occation an otherwise good business man limits his business sucess because the overall quality of outcome is inconsistant)...

    F types often use feeling based language..... like asking how do you feel about that - rather than what do you think.... they personalise.

    T types usualyl ahve to learn to be personable around their business... so they send factual emails without they "Hi you did you have a good weekend" will read, please cna you forward me.... they ahve to work at social nicesties.

    This is very insightful . . . thanks again, Tink.

    I have learned to be personable because it is what people expect of me.

    I handle all personal relationships very logically in a business like fashion. Although I am VERY sentimental and even passionate, I am on reserve until certain criteria have been met.


    As for the S/N thing I'll leave you with the words of my saintly old mother. "Why the hell would I care what's at the end of the Universe? Is it going to help me pay my bills? Go ask your father these things!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by simulatedworld View Post
    This is nonsensical enough that I'm convinced you have no idea what you're talking about and am no longer interested in discussing this with you.
    Excellent use of Fi.

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    These all are generalities but...look at the eyes. Ss tend to be more visual. Often there seems to be more of a glossy sheen to them or starry eyes. Ns often have deeper inward or more soul piercing outward eyes. Both types of eyes can be beautiful.

    Also I tend to notice that Ss visual nature is often illustrated in there words more. An S/sensory will say "I see what you mean" and NTs tend to be more auditory and NF in particular tend to be more kino. These the NT/auditory will say more often "I hear what was said" and the NF will say more often "I understand this makes a person feel"

    And as noted Ss seem more interested in people name brands and name dropping
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    Quote Originally Posted by sleepy View Post
    Excellent use of Fi.
    Excellent use of no idea what any of these terms mean.


    Quote Originally Posted by William K View Post
    So S/N/T/F are verbs, while E/I/P/J are adjectives?
    I like it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nigel Tufnel View Post
    I/E, J/P, T/F are often fairly apparent after you meet someone a few times

    but I've known people for years I can't tell if they're N or S

    being handy is one indicator, but not always apparent from typical office/party/playing sports activities

    many Ns, like me, don't walk around discussing theories, and some people who seem like Ss do, so that doesn't really seem to work

    not enough evidence in daily life for me, how do you tell?
    I often have a difficult time with this as well. I am better at all of this with Ts than Fs, maybe due to more practice. Basically, in getting to know the person, I try and understand how their mind works. Is their thought process more random, connecting the dots, or future oriented (N) or is it more factual, specific, and based on past history (S). You can try and get clues related to this based on how they talk but it is not always easy because people use their left or right hand to fit the specific situation.

    Another clue - Ns finish other people's sentences

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