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    The N is pretty straight and the S is very curvy.

    For realz, I usually see if someone is an N if they are wandery, forgetful of details, names or other not really that important things. In other words, sensotarded.

    S's are usually the ones that do not have sensotard moments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aphrodite-gone-awry View Post
    --doesn't notice lyrics in music like an s will--because their mind is wandering during said music on other things (? true/false?)
    False. I'm great at lyrics, and I find that some other intuitives are the same too. Don't know why, I suck at remembering names for example. But lyrics - I listen to them once, and I can cite them word for word.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fluffywolf View Post
    The N is pretty straight and the S is very curvy.

    For realz, I usually see if someone is an N if they are wandery, forgetful of details, names or other not really that important things. In other words, sensotarded.

    S's are usually the ones that do not have sensotard moments.
    Yup. Noticing a weakness in sensing is a lot easier than noticing a huge amount of fail in intuition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nebbykoo View Post
    I'd say that we are who we are. Throwing grid lines over perception just confuses insight. No one needs to know if a person is S/N. Isn't what they say/do far more important than trying to divine some non-existent abstraction?

    You might as well dwell on what color their soul is...
    Then again, MBTI has nothing to do with what people say/do but how and why they do it. But yeah, I hate the cesspool that is psychology.


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    [quote=Sytpg;984260]Then again, MBTI has nothing to do with what people say/do but how and why they do it. But yeah, I hate the cesspool that is psychology.quote]

    You've just delineated the major problem with typing anyone other than yourself: the only relevant evidence is what they do and say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fidelia View Post
    N houses tend to be filled with a lot more books and paper than S houses, although that's not always a reliable guideline. However the books that are in S houses tend to be more of a practical nature.
    oooh, good one! I have stacks and stacks of books nearly (and messily) covering every surface in my home.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sytpg View Post
    Then again, MBTI has nothing to do with what people say/do but how and why they do it. But yeah, I hate the cesspool that is psychology.


    Fidelia : only people in need of enlightenment read books. I'm an N damnit! Admire my superior intellect.
    Although I have stacks of books I have been off reading lately for ambiguous reasons. I just don't have time to read and ponder, so pondering takes precedence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aphrodite-gone-awry View Post
    --not particularly into music hardcore like their s counterparts (? this might be too much assumption making)
    Hm, I can't agree with this. Sensors might have a more broad collection of music, but I've found that Ns are more likely to be deeply into their music collection. I've found that there's a tendency for Ss to listen to an album a few times, think "that's was nice," and then move onto the next thing, while Ns tend to become more involved with the songs and search for deeper meaning in them. Ns are also more likely to get heavily "into" a couple artists at a time (as in, downloading the entire collection of a band and listening to that almost exclusively for a couple weeks) than Ss are.

    And as for having papers lying around one's house/apartment: I think that's really more of a J vs. P thing. I'd probably agree that Ns tend to have fuller bookshelves, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    N people can talk about facts, especially if they are trying to make something work in the external world, but they are much more at ease at thinking in terms of implications as the base language and tend to weigh possibilities with more nuance. There's a big difference in this with NT vs NF, which makes it kind of hard to describe (N has more flex in its expression than S). To N's, theory/abstract perception IS reality, and they can speak naturally in that mental algebra.
    I'm really only beginning to get a grasp of what those letters represent, so I'm just offering my 0.02c here.

    The point you've mentioned is very interesting.
    I think the most important point in your post is that to Ns, ideas and concepts are just as real as the physical reality.
    Generally I'd say that Ns are a lot more fuzzy than Ss when it comes to perception. I think I'm living together with an S guy and an S girl, and I've had a lot of discussions with the guy. He often says that things are "clear", and whenever I say that most things are in fact complicated and "not that easy", all I get is usually a or a . He's studying geology and I'm studying English, history and Latin. All of these are academic subjects of course, but his is probably the most concrete I can think of while I'm dealing with nothing more than texts and ideas. To him, if something isn't, it isn't, end of line. - That's when I start asking "But what if it were...". It could be more a J/P thing though.
    I'd say that I perceive most things as some sort of "symbol" - I know this sounds weird, but I'm always wondering about the physical reality of things. The opposition could be like this: When he hears someone talking, he listens to what the other person says and the things he or she talks about. I listen to the ideas the other person might represent. Sometimes it almost seems like there is some layer between me and the physical reality - even when I'm touching something, I sometimes wonder what the object actually is .
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    Read Jung and figure out what Ne, Ni, Se and Si are.

    MBTI is one big oversimplification of Jung.
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    Challenge the one you would like to figure out. Ns are future orientated, Ss past orientated. Make a proposal you know to work more efficient and overall improved. A new way of thinking, preferably not readily apparent. If they reject the idea, they are S, if they make an effort to understand your idea they are N, certainly if they are impressed with your clever thinking.

    Make sure your idea is sound though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simulatedworld View Post
    Read Jung and figure out what Ne, Ni, Se and Si are.

    MBTI is one big oversimplification of Jung.
    This.
    Not to mention that MBTI is itself prone to oversimplification.
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