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    Quote Originally Posted by simulatedworld View Post
    ^ Fi is usually pretty chill [when accompanied by Se].
    Yeah, being an SFP definitely helps with the chill factor. But I don't want to completely shoot the NFPs down when they claim to have chill Fi, especially when they can back that claim up by some good old enneagram stuff.

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    ^ Will never learn.

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    But, like, what's so great about having chill Fi?

    I'm just saying, you know.

    It appears you're expressing a personal preference for people who are not intense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marmalade.sunrise View Post
    But, like, what's so great about having chill Fi?

    I'm just saying, you know.

    It appears you're expressing a personal preference for people who are not intense.
    No, just for people who aren't obnoxiously melodramatic about nothing.
    If you could be anything you want, I bet you'd be disappointed--am I right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by simulatedworld View Post
    No, just for people who aren't obnoxiously melodramatic about nothing.
    I know, I know. ENTPs long to be the only obnoxious people in the room.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marmalade.sunrise View Post
    But, like, what's so great about having chill Fi?

    I'm just saying, you know.

    It appears you're expressing a personal preference for people who are not intense.
    Obviously it's a personal preference thing. I prefer Fi to not be pretentious, intrusive, and otherwise obnoxious, and being "chill" helps with that. Having flexibility in any use of any functions is good actually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marmalade.sunrise View Post
    I know, I know. ENTPs long to be the only obnoxious people in the room.
    Just remember - Ti users tend to experience just as visceral a response to willful illogic as Fi users do to callous indifference. Perhaps this is why both may not get along at all times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marmalade.sunrise View Post
    I know, I know. ENTPs long to be the only obnoxious people in the room.
    Damn straight.
    If you could be anything you want, I bet you'd be disappointed--am I right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by marmalade.sunrise View Post
    I know, I know. ENTPs long to be the only obnoxious people in the room.
    Especially those with fangs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teslashock View Post
    Thank you Amargith, Fidelia, and proteanmix for your discussion of Fe/Fi. It's a nice step away from the hostile foot upon which the thread initially took off.



    This is something that I find interesting: the fact that most other types I know will willingly admit that their functions have obvious pitfalls, while Fi users have a really hard time admitting that Fi can cause problems. As an ENTP, I realize that my Ne/Ti can be really abrasive and harmful to those around me at times (regardless of whether that's my intent or not), and I understand that Ne/Ti really need a good splash of Fe to help me get along with people better.

    I see how Ti can just be too analytical to the point that nothing gets done and that it never really comes up with any answers and that Ne is just so out there that it doesn't know how to prioritize and has a hard time telling the difference between a good idea and a bad one. It's interesting to me that strong Fi users seem so unwilling to accept the fact that Fi has obvious pitfalls as well. Why can't you guys just agree that all functions, *including Fi*, can have negative consequences when used in copious amounts and without a balance from some other function(s)?

    Personally, I think that has to do with the fact that Fi is also never appreciated. Or so it seems. All people do is whine about it. Especially ENTPs, no offense. So at some point you go 'yeah yeah, we get it, you don't however, clearly!' and become defensive.

    As said before, maybe I'm biased, but Fi seems to be one of the least appreciated functions around. It's also not practical, doesn't deserve merit by being particularly useful to others, and when it is actually useful, it doesn't get acknowledged or it gets treated as nice 'luxury' to have (thinking art, music, hugging, fantasy books, lifting someone elses spirit, etc). It doesn't feel like it provides for the necessities in life, it doesn't help you in the real world, or so it seems, therefore it's not valued. On the contrary, it gets more press for being a burden and in the way of 'valuable' things than anything else. I get it, Fi is hard to pinpoint, to quantify, to put to use, and to even fully appreciate becoz it's so ellusive and highly individual, and therefore hard to grasp for those not employing it as much. It's not our fault that you have trouble seeing its merit though. And although some of the comments of how you perceive Fi definitely apply to immature Fi, some are so far off becoz of lack of understanding, it just makes you wanna roll your eyes, coz you know that explaining it wouldn't matter as you cannot prove your stance to them anyway. It's the proverbial dog who's seen a rainbow and who tries to convince other dogs it exists-thing all over again. Can you honestly blame us for our reaction?
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