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    Default Who is more practical, SP or ST?

    The title says it all. SP's are by definition practical according to Kiersey and Meyers, But I think an STJ has an advantage over an SFP in this area. Thoughts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Into It View Post
    The title says it all. SP's are by definition practical according to Kiersey and Meyers, But I think an STJ has an advantage over an SFP in this area. Thoughts?
    Hmmmm...interesting...

    A few entries of "practical" from Practical Definition | Definition of Practical at Dictionary.com

    DISCLAIMER: All opinions stated here are from my personal experiences, of people I know first hand, and tasks/actions I have worked with them on...

    ...3. of, pertaining to, or concerned with ordinary activities, business, or work: practical affairs. (STJ, sure thing, great at implementing routine constructs with great precision)

    4. adapted or designed for actual use; useful: practical instructions. (SFP. because creativity means alot when you have to create something that works with limited resources, and SFPs are pretty damn creative from what I've seen.)

    5. engaged or experienced in actual practice or work: a practical politician. (Tie, I see no obvious winner here...)

    6. inclined toward or fitted for actual work or useful activities: a practical person. (Ummm...as far as people go, SFPs should be able to be "practical" but I'd say their default is more inclined toward "it works but does it in a really interesting and noticeable way." )

    7. mindful of the results, usefulness, advantages or disadvantages, etc., of action or procedure. (STJs, hands down. RULES! = STJ!!! )

    8. matter-of-fact; prosaic. (STJ's, because they are Sensor-Thinkers, and thus blunt as hell...like me. However, their judging makes them anal retentive about it, whereas perceivers are blunt yet cool. )

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    If it came to needing a creative and flexible person, I'd go with the SFP, every time. If I needed a more rigid and reliable person to act in accordance with established policies, rules, and procedures, I'd go with the STJ, and have someone else manage them directly so they didn't ruin my procrastinating.

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    At any rate, STP wins.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heinel View Post
    At any rate, STP wins.
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    STJ over SFP of course.
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    Of course Te and Fe are more "practical" in terms of basic, hands-on real world application so it's pretty obvious that SJs win in that department.

    SPs are called artists, after all.

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    [standard disclaimer about how this is clearly person-dependent here], but on average I would guess:

    STP, then STJ, then SFP.

    So probably ST, to answer your question.
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    Might you be confusing "practical" with "pragmatic"? That's what Keirsey said about SP's (n which case, STJ is the opposite; cooperative).

    I any case, they are both probably practical in their own ways. SP indicates present concrete perception, so they will see things for what they are. This I imagine could be called "practical". STJ is past concrete perception WITH external logical judgment. So they will be better at enacting things, or basically, putting them into "practice". That might be the better definition of "practical".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric B View Post
    Might you be confusing "practical" with "pragmatic"? That's what Keirsey said about SP's (n which case, STJ is the opposite; cooperative).

    I any case, they are both probably practical in their own ways. SP indicates present concrete perception, so they will see things for what they are. This I imagine could be called "practical". STJ is past concrete perception WITH external logical judgment. So they will be better at enacting things, or basically, putting them into "practice". That might be the better definition of "practical".
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