User Tag List

First 7891011 Last

Results 81 to 90 of 136

  1. #81
    Senior Member Jaguar's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Posts
    12,436

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by tinkerbell View Post
    but that is even true to MBTI and Engramme
    Since you just made that point, and I'm sitting here laughing, I guess we have to discuss the obvious, don't we?

    We are in a forum that focuses on a theory which has been deemed "nonsense" so many times I don't think a person could count that high without exhaustion.
    People actually use the theory to type everything from fictional TV characters, pets, and probably their penis if given the chance.

    I'm not going to make any claims about the validity of astrology or any mechanism. That's not even why I am in this thread.
    I am in this thread because I see a huge problem with hypocrisy.
    I find it more than a bit hypocritical that anyone demand empirical evidence for astrological theory,
    while not demanding the same level of empirical evidence for MBTI theory.

    "Oh you are type XXXX, well then, your 7th function is Fe."
    Worse yet are comments like, "You are projecting your shadow functions at me!"

    As John McEnroe would say: You cannot be serious.
    The future is for the unafraid.

  2. #82
    Senior Member tinkerbell's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    MBTI
    ENTP
    Posts
    3,487

    Default

    Hi


    I don't think everything needs to be provable to be useful. MBTI Is useful, I don't see it correleating to ENgramme, but that doens't invalidate that both methods group people into batches and apply generalisations to describe them... that is useful... for a purpose, understanding how we are different from one another.

    One method will be better than another if one wants to have a specific outcome, but which method is better depends on what you are trying to acheive.

    I don't know enoguh about Engramme to really work through it...
    MBTI can be useful at selling stuff... but then so can NLP and I'm sure Engramme too.

    I can profile people by listening to the content of their conversationa dn the language they use... if it's concerete then I pitch my argument, sales pitch etc on a concrete level, if they are abstract I sell in nervana...

    If I pick up they are NF - I sell humanitrain bits of something - I've done that in reality

    IF they are SJ, I need to work really hard at getting them up to speed with the process and the impact that specific decisions will have and ensuring they understand the impact of the choice....

    If they are SP ... you know I don't thibnk I flog stuff to SP's ...... Man my life is so full of SJ...the SP get left out in the cold... bless..

    But MBTI has no impirical evidence.... but it's practically very useful.....

    Astrology is similar but more compelx and I use it in a similar way(when I type people).

  3. #83
    Senior Member Jaguar's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Posts
    12,436

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by tinkerbell View Post
    I don't think everything needs to be provable to be useful.
    That's right. You don't have to know how a clock works to tell time.

    My point is, people can't cry:" waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah where's the evidence for astrology?"
    Not unless they also do it for MBTI.

    I need to go now. I have to type my penis.
    The future is for the unafraid.

  4. #84
    Senior Member tinkerbell's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    MBTI
    ENTP
    Posts
    3,487

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    That's right. You don't have to know how a clock works to tell time.

    My point is, people can't cry:" waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah where's the evidence for astrology?"
    Not unless they also do it for MBTI.

    I need to go now. I have to type my penis.
    I have a theory that men buy cars that remind them of their penis....

    Enjoy your questionnaire I'll be really impressed with the answers

  5. #85
    That's my name biotch! JoSunshine's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    MBTI
    eNfj
    Enneagram
    2
    Posts
    660

    Default

    eNfj
    2w3
    Cancer
    "Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. " - Dr. Seuss
    I can't spell...get over it

    Slightly ENFJ, totally JoSunshine
    Extroverted (E) 52.5%........Introverted (I) 47.5%
    Intuitive (N) 65.63%..........Sensing (S) 34.38%
    Feeling (F) 55.56%............Thinking (T) 44.44%
    Judging (J) 51.43%............Perceiving (P) 48.57%

  6. #86
    Tier 1 Member LunaLuminosity's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    MBTI
    ENTP
    Enneagram
    7w6 so/sp
    Socionics
    ILE
    Posts
    2,484

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post

    My point is, people can't cry:" waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah where's the evidence for astrology?"
    Not unless they also do it for MBTI.
    Except that MBTI and astrology are completely different things.

    Astrology gives descriptions based on a person's birth date and birth location.

    MBTI gives descriptions based upon other self-reported descriptions.

    It is pretty simple to see the link between the self-reported answers to the test and the test results. But what link could there be between a birth date and a personality?

  7. #87
    Senior Member Jaguar's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Posts
    12,436

    Default

    You can count the trees, and I'll look at the forest.
    The future is for the unafraid.

  8. #88
    Tier 1 Member LunaLuminosity's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    MBTI
    ENTP
    Enneagram
    7w6 so/sp
    Socionics
    ILE
    Posts
    2,484

    Default

    Trees= ?
    Forest= ?

    I get the whole details vs the big picture comparison, but what are you talking about here?

  9. #89
    Babylon Candle Venom's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    MBTI
    INTJ
    Enneagram
    1w9 sp/sx
    Posts
    2,128

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by LunaLuminosity View Post
    Except that MBTI and astrology are completely different things.

    Astrology gives descriptions based on a person's birth date and birth location.

    MBTI gives descriptions based upon other self-reported descriptions.

    It is pretty simple to see the link between the self-reported answers to the test and the test results. But what link could there be between a birth date and a personality?
    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    You can count the trees, and I'll look at the forest.
    Quote Originally Posted by LunaLuminosity View Post
    Trees= ?
    Forest= ?

    I get the whole details vs the big picture comparison, but what are you talking about here?
    hes saying that you're focusing too much of small differences, and that its all the same bullshit to him.

    I dont agree, but thats what he's saying...

  10. #90
    Freshman Member simulatedworld's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    MBTI
    ENTP
    Enneagram
    7w6 sx/so
    Socionics
    ILE
    Posts
    5,554

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    That's right. You don't have to know how a clock works to tell time.

    My point is, people can't cry:" waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah where's the evidence for astrology?"
    Not unless they also do it for MBTI.

    I need to go now. I have to type my penis.
    Well, since astrology can be tested and typology can't, there's a clear difference.

    Note that I completely agree that the MBTI test is bullshit, as are all purported tests of psychological type.

    The typology most of us use here is just arbitrary categorizing that we fully acknowledge is an unscientific pure thought exercise.
    If you could be anything you want, I bet you'd be disappointed--am I right?

Similar Threads

  1. MBTI and Enneagram Correlations
    By 527468 in forum Enneagram
    Replies: 14
    Last Post: 08-03-2013, 06:36 PM
  2. Replies: 125
    Last Post: 01-23-2013, 09:13 PM
  3. Enneagram - MBTI Type correlation
    By Octarine in forum Enneagram
    Replies: 56
    Last Post: 02-19-2012, 03:59 AM
  4. [E9] What MBTI Configuration Correlates with ENNEAGRAM 9?
    By Adasta in forum Enneatypes
    Replies: 11
    Last Post: 11-18-2010, 08:46 PM
  5. MBTI and Enneagram correlation chart
    By yupyupyup in forum Myers-Briggs and Jungian Cognitive Functions
    Replies: 14
    Last Post: 04-03-2010, 08:59 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
Single Sign On provided by vBSSO