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    Quote Originally Posted by Santtu View Post
    INTP Lives a life with dignity, pondering the soundness and value of ideas in their favorite area of interest, even though they are really generalists at heart. They see the human connection behind most of the ideas, allowing them to be forgiving and relatively jovial. They do participate in a low-key way, and do not hide behind seemingly undeafeatable wall of analysis.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tamske View Post
    INTP - knows it's not mandatory to be chatty or sociable in order to be accepted, at least by some people. This allows him to be more at ease among a crowd compared to the basic INTP. Of course, he still prefers "creating/learning/combining new theories" to "caring about people", but he doesn't feel inferior because of this.
    I like Santtu's def best overall, especially in the wording, but the last sentence of Tamske's is worth saving too.

    I worked hard to build my social abilities but sometimes I find myself feeling inadequate / getting down on myself because I can't ever seem to be as intuitive and good at the "people" stuff as the F's I'm friends with... Can't do it, and sometimes I wonder what I am giving them in return when they're giving me their relational affirmation. My natural contributions seem "colder" to me... but I have to accept that I am not them and don't have the same thing to give, and it's fine.

    Note: I see a different between an "actualized" type and an XXXX. An actualized ESTP for example is not XXXX, even if they've fleshed out the weak spots of their personality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    Note: I see a different between an "actualized" type and an XXXX. An actualized ESTP for example is not XXXX, even if they've fleshed out the weak spots of their personality.
    That's exactly what we are trying to describe.
    Not XXXX-es; but eg. an ESTP who has compensated for his weaknesses with different means. This can range from developing the lesser functions a bit more to using outside means.

    Thanks for combining the INTP ones
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tamske View Post
    That's exactly what we are trying to describe.
    Not XXXX-es; but eg. an ESTP who has compensated for his weaknesses with different means. This can range from developing the lesser functions a bit more to using outside means.
    Yup, that is what I figured here.... a typical "actualized" person of each type.
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    More balanced types...

    ESFJ - the balanced ESFJ has learnt people are different (*) and some people can be your friends without all the small-talk, agreeing on everything, and telling how good it is to see each other. He is still the one who succeeds in getting the family (or the friend group or the parish or...) together, but he's a bit more relaxed and forgiving in it. I can imagine people hating the get-togethers of the basic ESFJ but loving the ones of the balanced one...

    I don't know if there is any ESFJ in my family, but our family Christmas feasts have evolved from the "stressed-out everything needs to be perfect and everybody needs to be happy" kind to the relaxed kind I can actually enjoy.

    (*) I think "accepting differences" is something that makes every type more balanced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Santtu View Post
    I'll take it as a premise for this thread that the types described have found value in multiple forms of thinking, feeling, perception and intuition, and hence they are less one-sided versions of the carricature types so often spoken of in here.

    I'll give it a try.

    I'll also try not to get overboard with making these superhuman. I'm trying to cover perhaps 30-70% of people in here.

    ISTJ Cool, accepts people okay, does their own thing in a determined manner, invites other people in their life without getting very intimate.
    ISTP
    ISFP
    ISFJ
    INTJ
    INTP
    INFP
    INFJ
    ESTJ
    ESTP
    ESFPCan be appreciative of seriousness, tries to live their life with joy, connecting to a lot of people without being superficial.
    ESFJ Understands people with different motives, tries to create something that's both sensible and popular, maintains social norms in a relaxed way.
    ENTJ Accepts people with different goals, creates prosperity in socially responsible ways, considers other people's wants and goals aside with their own.
    ENTP Accepts stability, prefers to live in an improvised way, ready to grasp opportunities. Doesn't hold a grudge to the "system" or those who create it.
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    This is harder than I thought! I'll fill in the blanks later..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xander View Post
    ESFP - After having spent much time in introspection develops an almost split persona where one side is still a jack in the box comedian whom everyone loves to watch and the other is lost in contemplation and thought. Quite a stark contrast... probably due to the success of the primary persona almost no matter how under developed/ "extreme".
    This is interesting. I'm not sure if it's balance or type confusion, but I know one person who tests ESFP who acts like an INTP when he is alone or with one other person. He is like an ESFP in that he thrives on contact with others, has a large network of friends/rotating girlfriends and is a self-described 'hedonist' who gravitates toward the sensual. However, he spends many hours alone reading books and watching lecture videos about philosophy. He plans to pursue philosophy as a major and is quietly and intensely engaged when listening to someone discuss related topics. He picks apart and critiques arguments carefully, even journaling about his thoughts on what he is learning. It is clear that he spends more time alone, reflecting on broader existential issues, than partying. He even seems to need this ability to retreat. Also, I suspect some of the sensualism is attached to Si, not Se, as he says that music, scents, etc. have meaning to him because they evoke specific memories and experiences. I don't know what to make of it, honestly. Is this balance?

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    Let's describe Santtu's favourite type now...

    INTJ - just like the regular INTJ, the balanced one is the happiest and most productive when given a goal and free rein. Unlike the regular one, the balanced one doesn't think himself better (or worse) than other people for that. He's found a few trusted people with who he communicates. Though the balanced INTJ is still the most independent of all types, he hasn't lost his grip on the real world and the real people.
    Just compare Voldemort (Harry Potter, J.K. Rowling) with Matilda (Matilda, Roald Dahl) and you know what I mean. To be clear: I'm talking about the book Matilda. The movie one is a Feeler (probably INFP - but I don't remember that much from the movie).
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    ESTJ: Open-minded and accepting of those that are different. Does not boss people around, but instead makes suggestions, trying to maintain a harmonious work environment. Takes criticism very seriously, but NOT personally, and with the help of some (limited) introspection, fixes their problem with the dedication and focus with which they try to fix everything else. When a loved one tells them about their personal problems, will not run away and hide, and will not go "well, why didn't you do this? that would've been more efficient!", but will instead make suggestions and offer themselves completely and wholeheartedly to the cause - e.g. *spoken in a deathly serious tone of voice* "If you need me to tell that person off for you, it's no problem. I can skip that lecture that I've been looking forward to for a month."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Santtu View Post
    INTP Lives a life with dignity, pondering the soundness and value of ideas in their favorite area of interest, even though they are really generalists at heart. They see the human connection behind most of the ideas, allowing them to be forgiving and relatively jovial. They do participate in a low-key way, and do not hide behind seemingly undeafeatable wall of analysis.
    My wonderful INTP dad is almost exactly like this
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    Quote Originally Posted by Santtu View Post
    ENTJ Accepts people with different goals, creates prosperity in socially responsible ways, considers other people's wants and goals aside with their own.
    I think my dad is like this although he has his own drawbacks (of course).

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