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    Quote Originally Posted by Santtu View Post
    Are you trying to do that acknowledging thing I described now, too?
    Okay, thanks!
    But I don't want to turn this thread into a fuzzy feely "Tamske and Santtu are making compliments to each other" thread! Let's get out our Te and Ti again and make descriptions!

    The balanced INFP never loses his sense of wonder and this idea he's been made for a better world than this, just like the basic one. But he's learnt to live in and interact with the world. He's able to see the positive drive in everyone and tries to bring it out. Of course, he'll not say things like "You should do this and that, you can do it". Instead, his language is mainly symbolic and will work slowly to impact. ("Impact" is a much too hard and quick word for it! Somebody can find a better one?)

    I've thought a lot about a friend and mentor of mine lately - and only now, ten years after I've seen him regularly, I realise how his words and deeds have brought me to a better balance. Only now I'd call him a mentor.
    I don't know if he is a real INFP, though, but... what I recall of him inspired me to this description.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Santtu View Post
    Of course they can be described as a type, but I was interested people who in fact are balanced (one thing), AND close to xxxx (which is another thing).

    I don't think being xxxx makes a person balanced, but I'd say that access to multiple styles of cognition and information gathering paves way for balance. I'd almost say it's a prequisite.

    That xxxx-thing is more like a clue, a hint, a suggestion for what a balanced person might be. The reason for this is that I thought the forum members often strongly associate unbalanced behavior with too strong an expression of type.

    What descriptions would you write for some balanced types?
    I honestly think that knowing your type create a balance . In other words being an XXXX creates too much confusion, since there are more dominant functions than needed, it almost might create a schizophrenic person. If you on the other hand solely stick to your two main functions you get unbalanced behavior. Like you say.

    INTP - Analyzing, open minded to people and their ideas, sees many sides, a matrix oriented mind (not the movie), keeps head cold in difficult situations, intimate to people they feel close to, share feelings with people they trust.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slowriot View Post
    I honestly think that knowing your type create a balance . In other words being an XXXX creates too much confusion, since there are more dominant functions than needed, it almost might create a schizophrenic person. If you on the other hand solely stick to your two main functions you get unbalanced behavior. Like you say.
    I disagree to an extent .. Your type is somewhat biased in the first place as you are only going on the perception you have of yourself. If you are unhealthy then you are not going to get an accurate reading.

    However, i do believe it is better to have 4 letters as opposed to XXXX, least you have something to work on.

    I think i am only balanced on the E/I, F/T and J/P .. I rarely use N .. But 3 out of 4 is not that bad.
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    Personally I prefer a weak preference to some style of cognition in most of the situations. I've been sometimes baffled, with difficult choices to be made at times when my feelings have been as strong as thinking. I wouldn't have wanted to decide the priority of work & friends each and every time individually, for example.

    I guess I would feel a bit ungrounded as a real XXXX, but being an eNtj is close enough of it for me to experience a wide range of situations, feelings and thinking, but still having my life goal-orientated and well-managed. Now that's just my personal situation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by saslou View Post
    I disagree to an extent .. Your type is somewhat biased in the first place as you are only going on the perception you have of yourself. If you are unhealthy then you are not going to get an accurate reading.

    However, i do believe it is better to have 4 letters as opposed to XXXX, least you have something to work on.

    I think i am only balanced on the E/I, F/T and J/P .. I rarely use N .. But 3 out of 4 is not that bad.
    It was a badly constructed post I made so...

    Basically we all have and use all 8 functions (extraverted intuition/introverted intuition, extraverted sensing/introverted sensing, extraverted feeling/introverted feeling, extraverted thinking/introverted thinking) but we use two functions higher than the others. As an intp I still have to use introverted sensing and extraverted sensing all data get interpretated by all functions and the functions take info from other functions to prcoess said data/info but there is always two that takes preference two that you trust the most and that you let the other info from the other functions process through. So my point is that if one is using too many functions equally thet person will burn out psychologically and may have to take on different personas (schizophrenic behavior) to be able to consciously control all the data. Its an exaggeration btw not fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slowriot View Post
    It was a badly constructed post I made so...

    Basically we all have and use all 8 functions (extraverted intuition/introverted intuition, extraverted sensing/introverted sensing, extraverted feeling/introverted feeling, extraverted thinking/introverted thinking) but we use two functions higher than the others. As an intp I still have to use introverted sensing and extraverted sensing all data get interpretated by all functions and the functions take info from other functions to prcoess said data/info but there is always two that takes preference two that you trust the most and that you let the other info from the other functions process through. So my point is that if one is using too many functions equally thet person will burn out psychologically and may have to take on different personas (schizophrenic behavior) to be able to consciously control all the data. Its an exaggeration btw not fact.
    Now that makes a lot more sense .. Thank you
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    I've been re-reading my post about the balanced INFP...

    Quote Originally Posted by Tamske View Post
    The balanced INFP never loses his sense of wonder and this idea he's been made for a better world than this, just like the basic one. But he's learnt to live in and interact with the world. He's able to see the positive drive in everyone and tries to bring it out. Of course, he'll not say things like "You should do this and that, you can do it". Instead, his language is mainly symbolic and will work slowly to impact. ("Impact" is a much too hard and quick word for it! Somebody can find a better one?)

    I've thought a lot about a friend and mentor of mine lately - and only now, ten years after I've seen him regularly, I realise how his words and deeds have brought me to a better balance. Only now I'd call him a mentor.
    I don't know if he is a real INFP, though, but... what I recall of him inspired me to this description.
    ... and I wonder why I can't describe an INFP without sounding like one!

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    *bump*

    I want to see more balanced types. Here's my introvert cousin.

    INTP - knows it's not mandatory to be chatty or sociable in order to be accepted, at least by some people. This allows him to be more at ease among a crowd compared to the basic INTP. Of course, he still prefers "creating/learning/combining new theories" to "caring about people", but he doesn't feel inferior because of this.

    I remember an occasion in high school. We were discussing our study and career choices. EVERYBODY wanted to do "something with people"! It sounded as if that was the thing you HAD to say in order to be a human being. I rebelled and said I didn't want to do anything with people!!
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    I'd rather not postulate on what a balanced person could be so I'll just stick to those who I know who are fairly well balanced.

    ENTJ - Makes plans including people and is more often working to assist behind the scenes than taking charge ahead of every body.

    ISTP - Tries to incorporate the context and the personal in his thinking. Does just solve THE problem, solves YOUR problem... if you see what I mean.

    ESTP - Knows that their killing blow will probably land before the offence which deserved the response is made, compensates by pre-empting the killing blow and moves people down a different path. Recalls details about people, even contradictory ones, and is more comfortable making judgement calls based on those details even if an objective answer isn't obvious.

    ENFJ - Understands that their crusade is personal and not objective. Tends to soften the blow and can be more subtle in guiding people.

    ISTJ - Makes specific situations where they can be host and caring. I think it's deliberate as they know they're usually oblivious so they kind of set aside time to pay attention.

    ESFP - After having spent much time in introspection develops an almost split persona where one side is still a jack in the box comedian whom everyone loves to watch and the other is lost in contemplation and thought. Quite a stark contrast... probably due to the success of the primary persona almost no matter how under developed/ "extreme".
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